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Red_Merkin

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as a player, x-ball is the way forward to me. You shoot less paint per game, but you play a lot more games, therefore you get more for you money.
5 players on a field is way more fun to play, i hate the way 7 man is so stale.

I really enjoy watching x-ball. The thing i HATE about watching 7 man is the gaps between games. X-ball just gives it to you one game after another.

In my mind this format is far superior, and if i had enough players campaign would be playing x-ball. If it's on offer next season, i really want to play it.

It will mean however that teams simply don't play as many events, and some local events will suffer because the elite teams will be playing millennium events, and won't have the resources to play local events.

X-ball will take a differnt team structure to play. It's not the kind of format that a bunch of mates can just form up and play, not like 7 man. You need good sponsorship, and a solid club infrastructure, (pit crew, coach ect.). I believe it has to be treated like a club, where you have a first team, and a farm team that you use to draw resources from for the big events.

X-ball is the (imeadiate) future of paintball in my mind. Not everyone feels this way of course, but my squad certainly does.
 

stongle

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I find the inverse snobbery X-Ball in Europe (actually more specifically in the UK), generates as rather amusing. Those not playing or probably ever seen the format are very quick to dismiss it as being far too expensive and elitist. Sure it is expensive to play, what top level sport isn't. I mean do you think people who compete in either Club Class or "run what you brung" Motor sport stand there and pontificate loudly "oooooohhh, Formula 1 that's **** that is, well expensive, can't afford that". Well don't you think that both Formula 1 drivers and EXL players have actually done something to deserve the levels of financial assistance they get? (that's sponsorship not "incentivised buying" by the way). After all from a European perspective the EXL is "all" the Pro players?

However this thread is about the format itself, so politics and cash money aside I'll attempt to explain why I believe X-Ball should and MUST be the most important format in Paintball. In a nutshell it is the highest evolution of every single skill required to play paintball, and introduces additional ones. Here's my list of critical skills:

1.Aggression, kill kill kill (in a controlled manner of course).
2.Tactics, multiple game plans and tactics are key, completely redefined field walking.
3.Dominance, domination of the opposition to impose your game plan on them.
4.Preparation, pit crews, set-up, training.
5.Equipment, top of the line guns and equipment.
6.Fitness, key to playing back to back games and the fast based nature of the game requires a heightened physical prowess.
7.Intelligence (especially adaptive), ability to recognise patterns in play and adapt to these. Also the ability to overrule certain instincts and concentrate on your own job.
8.Individual Skill sets, snap shooting, running and shooting, staying tight, getting into bunkers, lane shooting, the list is endless
9.Redundancy, making sure you have enough kit and guns. You can't play X Ball with only 1 gun and hopper each
10.Teamwork, trust in each other, helping each other out, filling pots etc etc
11.Coaching, needs to have massive experience and knowledge call the correct plays at the right time. Manage the score board and timer

12'ish. Playing off the wall, this reverts back to intelligence because certain scenarios may require some off the wall or even slightly less than white tactics. I'm not referring to cheating, but there are psychological angles played out in X not quite so in 7 man.

Fall down or be insufficient in any of these areas, and you will get punished. This is a scary thought for many non-X ball teams to grasp. No longer can you turn up, pay your cash and expect to go out on field with minimal preparation and competent skill sets in only certain areas. X-ball requires proficiency across the board, and increased emphasis on some areas.

Generally in 7 man, teams take on or have certain characteristics. Certain UK teams I can think off are very good at individual aspects or tactics of the game. Infact so good they could go on winning tournaments such as the PA purely on their ability to shoot people out of the Bunkers from their back line. In X-Ball this might win you the odd point, but your opposition is simply going to adapt and instigate another game plan. This isn't the case in 7 man where you play different teams, so a single game plan "could" serve you well as there is little or no adoption required. Remove a teams only game plan and the ability for teams to switch tactics instantly makes any format of paintball more interesting.

Once it sinks into peoples nuggets that you can't exist with 1 game plan and one skill set, a whole other set of skills also need to be worked on becomes apparent (you might realise that TRAINING is key). Again a SCARY concept for 95% of UK teams. It is actually Cheaper to train than to play punter or novice tournaments too, and the benefits to your game are evident. The skill sets of X Ball teams training rather than playing local or UK domestic events means abilities are polarising at an alarming rate. A big catalyst of this is the X-Ball format. If players in the UK were ranked in order of ability (which is going to be very difficult), at a guess I'd say pretty much the top 75 out of 100 are ALL either playing or training for X-ball (btw that top 100 includes all the "genuine" Divisional Pros and AM A's and a good proportion of genuine AmB ability players).

You don't have to be the very best player to be a valuable addition to any X-ball team, as Red Merkin says, it is almost a Club Structure, and different people have different skills to bring to the table. Just because they don't bunker doesn't mean they couldn't go out and lock a field down for 3 minutes or even perform the Coach or Caller role. It can be played at a Divisional Level if you can put into place all the applicable skillsets, the player's individual skillset is a vital part of this but not the be all and end all. It could be argued that players are simply automations, but this simply makes all the other elements that much more interesting.

This huge mix of variables, game plans and skill sets simply makes X ball a more cerebral and interesting format to play and watch. Having to optimise in each area places a huge emphasis on training, and that hopefully will improve the level of the UK game. And anyone who thinks X Ball skills are not applicable to 7 man is in for a nasty shock if X does go up the swanny. If those players who've trained for X suddenly turn up on the UK Domestic Scene en masse at the PA or Dartford 7's for instance; that's a whole load of left handed shooting running and gunning crazy Zen shiznit players who are going to blow the ass end out of you.

So to sum up, it's more exciting to watch, it breeds excitement and allows crowd participation, it is cerebral, it's diverse, and hopefully will do more for UK Paintball development than playing tournament after tournament against mediocre opposition. I mean if we're all so serious about Paintball would'nt you want to become the best you could be, rather than take the easist route???
 

Steve Hancock

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There are both pros and cons, the cons are evident (its always easier to pick holes) but people need to watch or play to see the advantages, to a degree.

As a result if we are only aware of the cons you can't blame us for mentioning them, provided we reserve judgment until we have a chance to see the benifits, and are prepared to listen about them.

One major disadvantage of xball is the risk that it might fold. I don't yet know whether it is the best format, (i am very keen to see it, so i can decide for myself) but i would be disapointed if it folded because of promotional or political reasons, rather than it being decided on its intrinsic merits.
 

Steve Hancock

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TJ - if you mean cost to the player making it unfeasable to play, that could be concidered an intrinsic flaw, if it could not be resolved as it could damage paintball through reduced participation. That would be valid reason for its demise and not what i meant.

However if you mean funding behind the flagship league NXL, or number of people taking part to fund the events (divisional x-ball) then that would be unfortunate, as its collapse would be for the wrong reasons. Which is what i meant by promotion.
 

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Originally posted by Broken Arrow
x ball 2 me is crap :)
Out of interest, have you ever seen it? And i dont mean on DVD, or internet sites. Have you ever seen a live xball match? Because the game that Tigers played vs Nexus in Paris was the most tense game i have ever seen. It is a buzz to just watch xball being played.

And one hell of a buzz to play. If there were more Xball events in the MS, say 6 XBall events, and you told the 8 EXL teams that they were not allowed to play 7 man again, i doubt you would hear any complaints!
;)
 

MrPink

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Originally posted by Steve Hancock
Regarding a branded format, you said that paintball is industry driven. Is that one of paintballs strengths? That would mean control of the game would be in the hands of those who's aim is to make money out of it. In these days of SP type dealings is that what we want?
Um, the control of the game (Tournament's at least;)) is already in the hands of those who's aim is to make money from it, and has been for as long as I can remember. Whether it's a strength or not - the fact remains that 99% of Paintballers pay to play whatever format they prefer, and the companies that exist to allow those players to play also exist to make money.