Goose,
politics my friend.
but i dont need to tell you guys that.
Its not what you know its who you know......
politics my friend.
but i dont need to tell you guys that.
I will tell you what makes the millenium a joke
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BPM, Sykesg
As I wrote in another thread, I apology for including Shock in this...the rest stands.
But that's not the point. In that particular case, I have no problem with teams that complained about game fixing. As I wrote before, the game looked indeed very suspicious, and I would have complained also. My problem is that the series has become a place where ultimates make decisions and take dramatic actions that do not follow any rational of any kind. Just follow the fµcking book, ALL THE TIME! Ennemy fixed the game? Then, OK, provide the proofs and banned their players for a year as stated in the rules. But please, do not take half-ass decisions because of pressure from both sides. It's dangerous to throw a gazed-up marker on the floor or to play with a full-auto? OK, then punish EVERYBODY who does it. is this so complicated?
We, the teams, are paying loads of cash to play the series. I am just voicing up the opinion of an unsatisfied cutomer..
Peace
As I wrote in another thread, I apology for including Shock in this...the rest stands.
But that's not the point. In that particular case, I have no problem with teams that complained about game fixing. As I wrote before, the game looked indeed very suspicious, and I would have complained also. My problem is that the series has become a place where ultimates make decisions and take dramatic actions that do not follow any rational of any kind. Just follow the fµcking book, ALL THE TIME! Ennemy fixed the game? Then, OK, provide the proofs and banned their players for a year as stated in the rules. But please, do not take half-ass decisions because of pressure from both sides. It's dangerous to throw a gazed-up marker on the floor or to play with a full-auto? OK, then punish EVERYBODY who does it. is this so complicated?
We, the teams, are paying loads of cash to play the series. I am just voicing up the opinion of an unsatisfied cutomer..
If you only knew..... Read my posts carefully again and you probably will take that back
Have a look at the PS at the bottom of my first post
Peace
eurotrash - I think one of the points that Pete and Gareth were getting at, is that the fact you randomly associated certain teams with negative and derogatory comments.
Regardless of whether you feel the actions of those acting on behalf of the Millenium were right or wrong - you shouldn't make baseless accusations without accurate knowledge of the incident at hand.
Apologising after the event is a p*ss poor second to keeping quiet, or being slightly more diplomatic in the first instance.
Regardless of whether you feel the actions of those acting on behalf of the Millenium were right or wrong - you shouldn't make baseless accusations without accurate knowledge of the incident at hand.
Apologising after the event is a p*ss poor second to keeping quiet, or being slightly more diplomatic in the first instance.
J
Johan
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hmmmm, Nick
shut the hell up!!!! tosserOriginally posted by eurotrash
As I wrote earlier, our decision still has to be finalized... which means that this question of yours will have to remain unanswered...for now.
But does it really matter anyway?
J
Johan
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hmmmm, Nick
Piper
It does matter if you hide the way you are. So come on brother stand up and be counted!Originally posted by eurotrash
As I wrote earlier, our decision still has to be finalized... which means that this question of yours will have to remain unanswered...for now.
But does it really matter anyway?
Piper
In Germany
- After a game they just lost, a player from Worms, threw is gun on the ground and kicked in the base (no destruction of a dead box....). Worms got a 200 points penalty and their player is banned for the rest of the tournament. Two games later, after a game they've lost, a player from Tonton acyd (not Flingur) threw his gun on the ground and got away with it with no penalty.... Quote :"He did not throw his gun, he dropped it !!!!!!!!!!"
?!?
Different fields, different opinions on safety issues. THats not that nice, but thats life and no "politic".
- Enemy fury against enemy chaos, 96-51. Flag hung and flag in transit. Shockwave and Mayhem tigers, kicked out of the semi by this suspicious result complained to Moose (!) and got both enemy teams banned from the tournament and probably with no option of playing in Amsterdam.... that's totally OK IF they cheated, .... but it seems a little harsh with absolutely NO proofs....
Ive checked it carefully. And I was the freaking one who was with the decision of kicking them. As soon as we heard about the issue we went to the field asking the judges CAREFULLY what happened. They ALL had the same opinion about the game. Also about 5 players (different teams and diivisions) complained about that game at the organisation tent. While telling everything we investigated to the enemy teamcaptains they were NOT upset, but just calm and DID NOT EVEN COMPLAIN.
So think ahead, before accusing someone!! WE DID!!
joern.
- After a game they just lost, a player from Worms, threw is gun on the ground and kicked in the base (no destruction of a dead box....). Worms got a 200 points penalty and their player is banned for the rest of the tournament. Two games later, after a game they've lost, a player from Tonton acyd (not Flingur) threw his gun on the ground and got away with it with no penalty.... Quote :"He did not throw his gun, he dropped it !!!!!!!!!!"
?!?
Different fields, different opinions on safety issues. THats not that nice, but thats life and no "politic".
- Enemy fury against enemy chaos, 96-51. Flag hung and flag in transit. Shockwave and Mayhem tigers, kicked out of the semi by this suspicious result complained to Moose (!) and got both enemy teams banned from the tournament and probably with no option of playing in Amsterdam.... that's totally OK IF they cheated, .... but it seems a little harsh with absolutely NO proofs....
Ive checked it carefully. And I was the freaking one who was with the decision of kicking them. As soon as we heard about the issue we went to the field asking the judges CAREFULLY what happened. They ALL had the same opinion about the game. Also about 5 players (different teams and diivisions) complained about that game at the organisation tent. While telling everything we investigated to the enemy teamcaptains they were NOT upset, but just calm and DID NOT EVEN COMPLAIN.
So think ahead, before accusing someone!! WE DID!!
joern.
Goose,
Hey mate,
if you or anyone else here around thinks that I might be biased or care for any (pro)team you better leave the series and have a quick walk to the doctor.. you might be paranoid.
I dont care about anyone except of the rules. The problem is, that I can only deal with problems which were told to me. So if you think that somebody was wrong and its a "not in the game" decision but a severe safety issue with which I can deal afterwards, dont hesitate to come around an TELL me!
thanks. This would make the series better...
joern
Hey mate,
if you or anyone else here around thinks that I might be biased or care for any (pro)team you better leave the series and have a quick walk to the doctor.. you might be paranoid.
I dont care about anyone except of the rules. The problem is, that I can only deal with problems which were told to me. So if you think that somebody was wrong and its a "not in the game" decision but a severe safety issue with which I can deal afterwards, dont hesitate to come around an TELL me!
thanks. This would make the series better...
joern
Joern:
You must be aware that different judges are enforcing the rules differently.
Barrel socks, 30 seconds then game on, vs 10 seconds..., obviously different views about throwing guns, just to name a few.
As a player, i would like to see all the judges use the same rules on each field. In both Portugal, and Germany there were some pretty big differences about how the judges enforced the rules.
I feel that this is a fairly serious issue, and all the judging teams need to have consistecy when enforcing the rules. In some cases it comes down to player safety!
It's even more important when players and judges don't speak the same language!
You must be aware that different judges are enforcing the rules differently.
Barrel socks, 30 seconds then game on, vs 10 seconds..., obviously different views about throwing guns, just to name a few.
As a player, i would like to see all the judges use the same rules on each field. In both Portugal, and Germany there were some pretty big differences about how the judges enforced the rules.
I feel that this is a fairly serious issue, and all the judging teams need to have consistecy when enforcing the rules. In some cases it comes down to player safety!
It's even more important when players and judges don't speak the same language!