I Was Wrong !!!!!!!!

[Manning26]

Tyg, I wasn't meaning to defend fighting, I wasn't trying to cover it up with the term,'passion.' Physical contact should be severely punished, my point is that there's no one to do it right now. How hard is it for these guys to make a harsh call? Who's gonna ban a player for an event? We need structure, real refs with real support. Until we get that, none of us will be able to curb the temper tantrums that some people throw (myself included...unfortunuately), talk to these guys' mommas. Maybe they just weren't spanked enough as kids...spoiled brats. People vent, I've thrown stuff, I've argued calls with refs, it happens, and I view things like that as minor offenses. Now throwing stuff AT people, that's different. We need rules, we need...blah, I'm repeating myself. I do see your side Tyger, I was just getting a little reactionary there. I just get the sense from many people that they want us all to hold hands and sing, with our fuzzy teddybear butt-packs, rainbow colored jerseys, and try not to get too excited during the day so we don't hurt ourselves mularkey, bleccch!!! I know this isn't what you were going for, but sometimes that's what I feel like. And, holy crap Tyg, I hate the WWF.

 

[Micah]

Missile eh? I've always wondered about that ...

Any one want to donate some old out of date bottles for a little research project for an article and/or a little fun ... I always have been way to interested in things that shoot ... I think I'll have to do some sort of range test thing with (if I can get 'em) 3k 47/68/114 ci bottles as well as 4500 psi, then maybe try and figure out the lowest posible pressure for it to lift off the ground.

What would be more interesting, Vertical hight achieved or distance when Fired at 45'?

No I just need to figure out how I'm going to fire them off and not blow my self up ...

Please please please, no one try this at home ...

-Micah

 

[Buddha 3]

Micah, 4500 psi is about 300 times the atmospheric presure, which equals to swimming, unprotected, at a depth of 3 kilometers (a little under 2 miles for you Americans). Guess what? That ain't healthy....like a fighter pilot pulling a 300G turn. Guess what comes out of the cockpit....soup!

I wonder why we are still debating here. We seemed to have reached the general consensus that we need refs with bigger nuts. Guys not afraid to 'gently convince' players to adhere to the rules. If we agree on this point, why are some of you still arguing?

 

[Manning26]

Hey Buddha, maybe we like it. You got a problem?

 

[Micah]

I was planning on working up some sort of electronic fireing device, setting up a camera or 2 and getting the hell away, You know make sure I'm doing it in a BIG open field .. like the cow pastures @ SC Village ... oh damn I shouldn't have said that, it's incriminating ... But wouldn't it be cool to see a tank or 2 or 3 shoot really really high up in the air? it would be like model rockets ... only better ... maybe I could make some fins for it or something ... I think I'd have to make myself a little bunker (that protects from above too)

I'm not saying that it would be a good idea per se ... just that it would be f'in cool

Once again, Please please pleas don't try this at home.

-Micah

 

[Tyger]

First of all, Manning, no prob. If it makes you eel better I don't own a fuzzy teddy bear butt pack. I do, however, own a tiger backpack...

As for the tanks, seen it. Some local store her efilled tanks for a while. One day the valve unscrewed from the tank while it was on the 50 pound syphon. 7 ounce tank shot across the store like a rocket and imbedded itself into sheetrock and brick. 4 feet into the wall.

I also know similar stories from the old days f C/A when not everyone understood it. I can confirm a story of a kid who unscrewed the schreer valve from the tank and broke his best friend's jaw with an airborn tank.

Now let's multiply that by 114 CI @ 4500 PSI.

boom.

REfs ave rules with teeth, the refs just need to enforce it with a no quarter clause. "Once called, it's done." It works that way in every sport but football (stupid replays...)

-Tyg

 

[Buddha 3]

Yeah, I've seen the odd airborne Co2 tank in my days (gladly no one has been hit in the instances when I was there). Imagine what a mess HPA would leave....

I know the rules are there, but the problem is (I think) that there are too many refs around that get star struck when they have to ref the big names, and consequently....well.....take it up the ass basically.....
That's what we need to get rid of......

 

[Robbo]

Originally posted by Buddha 3

I know the rules are there, but the problem is (I think) that there are too many refs around that get star struck when they have to ref the big names, and consequently....well.....take it up the ass basically.....
That's what we need to get rid of......

Bud, you have nailed the problem in one !!!!!!
Pete

 

[Liz]

I've been reading the posts here and the ones about the Millennium rules on the Tournament board with interest, but as a lowly novice player who's been mostly away from the game for a few years I've kept out of the discussion so far. But one thing keeps coming to my mind - just when did all this appalling behavior start getting so bad?

Maybe it's because I've been out of things so long, but years ago I used to go to all the UK majors & see all the pro teams playing & you rarely got any bad behavior. OK. the occasional rows (in the safe zone after a game), players throwing markers at the ground after a game (though more dropping them with force rather than throwing them away from them, even I did that once when my marker went down in a critical game) & even the rare fights - not naming any names here Robbo

BUT - and this is a big but - these were very rare incidents and virtually never took place on the field. I never saw players in the dead zone firing on live players, and I could hardly believe it at Mayhem last year when a player fired on a spectator the other side of the netting.

Yes, paintball is a high-adrenalin sport. And yes, we all get very worked up about things, it's the nature of the game. It may surprise a few of the pros out there, but it can mean just as much to amateurs and novices when things go wrong or we feel "cheated", but it only seems to be the pros that get out of control. I don't think it's intentional, but I feel there may be some subconcious effect on the marshalls when they have to penalise a paintball "god", or maybe even their sponsor's no. 1 team.

One other thing. I used the term "out of control" there. This is what this kind of behavior is, and a player can't be at his/her best during a game if they lose control of themselves on the field. It's also bad for the image of the sport as a whole - the high the profile the more non-playing spectators we get e.g. Toulouse, and how many people will be put off trying it out or ban their kids from playing if they see these kind of incidents?

 

[Manning26]

Tyger, I think your avatar should be you with your tiger backpack on. That'd be sweet.