I Was Wrong !!!!!!!!

[Manning26]

The drive to win is a major part of what makes a proffessional a proffessional. Like Buddha said, you see guys throwing stuff, getting into shoving matches, screaming incoherently at people in every sport, well the good ones anyway. No one wants to watch a bunch of friggin' robots out there playing, the passion for the sport is what drives people to lunacy, what makes the players great, and what makes the special ones what they are. At that moment, losing is the most horrific thing in the world, and if they feel they've been slighted, then the fury of that perceived injustice lets loose on the poor fool who caused it. Most everyone knows exactly this, we've all felt it at some time, some deal with it better than others, but it's part of our sport, any freakin' sport. It's bloody human nature! The difference between ours and the other sports is that they've got proffessional refs. They're organised, the refs are backed by the league, and are independent of any team. They get paid to put up with all the b.s. that gets doled out at any event, and they could give a crap if Ed Poorman is chewing their ass, or just some Am. B punk. Pete, I know you're not trying to get a bunch of prisses out on the field so all the bad boy stuff will stop, we ABSOLUTELY FREAKING NEED proffessional refs.

 

[Phoenix]

Alright, when I compete, I get really into what ever sport I am playing. Hell, I get vicous when I Risk. So when I see the pros going ape **** I get pretty amped. I know they are going full bore and giving their all. I would do the same thing. Granted, these actions do need to be punished and penalized. Then I don't want to see whinig when it happens. Now there was mention of "fair judging." Well, I am no professional, nor have I ever been to a professional tourney, but I think a permanent referee contigent is what is needed. Much like the NFL, MLB, NHL and whatever professional sports you speak of. That way you get complete impartiallity, at least in theory.

To sum up:
Ape **** = good
Whining = bad
Permanent Refs = good

 

[Manning26]

Outstanding, Phoenix! You took my post, cut all the fat off of it, somehow managed to incorporate the term ape****, and made it work. Bra-vo.

 

[Phoenix]

Well, thank you. I am an English major... lol

 

[Tyger]

Robbo : thank you.

All others : It's one thing to be passionate, it's another thing to be out of control. And it's yet another to have a society that encourages it.

Even hockey has reprecussions for acts on the ice. Do you realise that last season an NHL Player was ARRESTED for assault with adeadly weapon? Do you know that a high school coach was arrested for telling his team to give one player on the other team the "special treatment" (The player in question is now paralised from the waist down in a back-check incident). Hockey is not immune to accountability.

American football players get penalised for plays they make on the gridiron that are unsporstmanlike. Paintball has no reprecussions, there are no long term punishments for on field antics, or off field antics (Throwing guns, throwing bunkers at refs, shooting a ref in order to hobble them, beating down opponents, overshooting with intent to teach a lesson...)

Paintball wants the "bling-bling", but is unwilling to do what needs to be done to get it. Accountability that means something, punsihment for on-field antics, a player code of conduct at all levels.... I'm all for it. Like it or not, pro players are role models, start earning that respect.

Ok, I'll put the soapbox back now...

-Tyger

 

[Snoochie-Boochie-Goochie]

hey Pete

i think i remember an article that kind of addressed this in PGI a couple of years or so ago written by that master of disaster that ace of paint that professor of paintball that poodle of noodles justin owen
title was "Reality Check" if I remember correctly
give it a look see the boy had some thoughts

 

[Buddha 3]

I get the feeling some people on this thread think I am pro hissy fit throwing.
That's not entirely accurate. I am all for the emotions that cause the outbursts, but there should be a safety catch, i.e. a set of repercussions if a player/team gets out of control. As many of you are aware, there is another thread on this subject currently 'alive', and it seems to be heading for the same conclusion that Tyger reached. We need good refs, with serious penalties to back up their ruling.

 

[Tom Tom]

As of full time reffing, It is a tricky situation.

In soccer/football. You won;t see Man utd Reffing a Tottenham vs Arsenal match because to make it to that level of play is impossible and only a small few can get in to do it.

With Paintball more people have the opportunity to play. So once you have played you don't want to give that up to be a full time ref. You want to have a go at playing to.

While people can still get into the sport and progress up the ranks and play at all levels (if they are good enough) they are going to marshall when requested and then play all the rest of the time.

Other sports (because of popularity in the public) have the people with a passion for the game (why they are involved) and they may even play else where in a smaller league/ team but in paintball at the moment everyone is still given the kind of opportunity to progress, which is both a good thing for growth in one aspect but also stops the growth of a full time Marshalling/reffereeing system.

 

[Phoenix]

Tyger: did you read my post, or did you just read the first line of it. I said "Granted, these actions do need to be punished and penalized. Then I don't want to see whinig when it happens." You can have intensity, outbursts and all ape****." But, just like in any professional sport, there needs to be repricussions. So, we can all have our "ape****," not whine about it, get some professioanl refs, and have a great game. Paintball is one of the most extreme sports, with it you get extreme emotions.

 

[rockon_1]

Jeeze robbo whern i read your first post i thought this was brought on by the little aftershock/dynasty incident .Personnally I think the guy on shock was wrong to keep hammering the dynasty guy but i wasnt there and so cant say that he deserved to be shot repeatedly in the goods . Although if p8ntballers description is accurate thats exactly my opinion .(but then again im a childish, vindictive pain in hte a$$)