hypocrisy in PB media?!

[duffistuta]

Send it to the Queen Mr D, suggesting it as a new tack for her Christmas speech. I might pay some attention to her if she went down your path...

 

[SteveD]

and Her address would be?

(I've never really thought it all the way out. Do you think 10k in ammo would be enough?)

 

[duffistuta]

TheQueen@hotmail.com

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by duffistuta

>>>It is a product that can be used legally or illegally, as can all electro markers. I think you can just as easily say that the DM5, Angel and Timmy are designed for cheating. Advantage are taking a leaf out of Evil's book and using the bad boy marketing card.

Ok, except all the stock guns listed are easy enough to check . You run a low debounce, TR setting, whatever it'll get picked up on by any ref worth their salt (eh HP ) you can set the mrof all the way down and turn the eye off but it's a well known cheat and very easy to check for. with the AD boards it's different it's designed to be consealed. I believe that's what makes the issue different to the stock boards.

Personally though I'm not really bothered what ad's are there. As long as the site stays up and running I'm pretty easy.......

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by SteveD
OK. I think that paintball has entirely embraced a 'bad guy' image and a 'bad guy' culture. Its become the epitome of 'get away with what you can cause everyone else is doing the same'.

We have only the 'leaders' of our industry to thank for this, because they have, each and every one of them, demonstrated through their personal actions that lying, cheating, stealing, putting one over, bending the rules, slanting the truth, exagerating, understating, arm twisting, extorting, bait-and-switching and spitting on the public sidewalk are the paths to money, success and fame in our industry.

Keep an eye on the 'View' in the next month or two, Mr. D. Ant is sitting on a relevant--to this discussion--column he's gonna have to use soon. If our esteemed and glorious editor keeps my title it'll be called, 'GKY.'

And yes, it's a shameless plug but somebody has got to do it.

 

[stongle]

Originally posted by SteveD
Yeah, you guys drew me out of the hole I was hiding in; it was a little to the left of Saddam's, but no one tried to drag me out when the coalition came marching through. Buncha noisy f***ers, nocked sand from the ceiling all over EVERYTHING...

I'm no longer working where I was working, so I no longer have to be as circumspect in my public affirmations as I have been the past 7 years. (Be afraid? Be VERY afraid?)

BTW, just as a short aside: I'm always impressed with the high level of discourse, intellectualism and advanced level of vocabulary here in these forums. There's meat on the bones here, while on most of the US forums the apex of debate gets you a shrill 'yah, so's yur mother'.

But then, I live in a country who's leaders think they can actually win a guerilla war, and those leaders set the pace for the rest of the 'sheep'. Independent thought is discouraged amongst sheep (the herd is safe, there's wolves lurking in the woods, just keep your head down, huddle in the middle and the sheep dogs will protect you, unless they happen to be distracted by the ample breast they're feeling up, in which case you'll just have to take your chances)

Setting the pace for the rest of the sheep. Morality and ethics. Cheaters. Sport or not. The right to take responsibility for other's actions or the right to let everyone go to hell in their own handbasket.

I guess if you categorized me, I'd end up in the 'pragmatic/libertine' camp. I try to deal with the situation in hand and devise a way to achieve the best outcome, given the current circumstances, while at the same time wishing that people were intelligent and thoughtful enough to be left entirely to their own devices.

My favorite 'fantasy' solution would be to hand everyone an M60, 10,000 rounds of ammo and suspend all laws for 6 months. It wouldn't be pretty, but I promise you one thing: everyone left alive at the end of the 6 months would be able to get along with everyone else left alive - in one way or another and there would be a VERY healthy respect for personal rights.

(And it would be very interesting to see what kind of system they all worked out for burying the dead.)

I'm not addressing the issues, am I?

OK. I think that paintball has entirely embraced a 'bad guy' image and a 'bad guy' culture. Its become the epitome of 'get away with what you can cause everyone else is doing the same'.

We have only the 'leaders' of our industry to thank for this, because they have, each and every one of them, demonstrated through their personal actions that lying, cheating, stealing, putting one over, bending the rules, slanting the truth, exagerating, understating, arm twisting, extorting, bait-and-switching and spitting on the public sidewalk are the paths to money, success and fame in our industry.

If you are a 'leader' of the industry and can look at yourself in the mirror and say, 'I haven't done any of those things', then you can safely remove these shoes, as they don't fit.

This chip thing is just the n'th generational result of all that has gone before.

Cultural change is the only real solution; the day when the emotional reaction to a product such as a cheater board is 'omg, who would want that' is the day when magazines won't have to agonize over accepting such an ad or not.

Its also a day that is a loooong way off in coming.

Errr just back from th epub, but unkless SteveD has been drinking special brew, that reads lioke someting i'd post.

 

[Flash-Bugout]

What a long thread with many big words for such a simple subject.

Site has many user, needs money to pay for server/bandwidth.

Site takes adverts from a company a few people don't like/for products people don't like.

Nobody likes product/company, nobody clicks on advert.

There is no success from advert, advertiser doesn't pay again to advertise where nobody is interested in the product.

Either that or a few people buy product, advertiser re-advertises, and y'all should be happy that a company you don't like is paying for your favourite website to stay online - that's money out of their profits, towards a forum where you can spout rubbish all day long.

Where's the problem?

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I don't like scenario games and the fact that they (generally) push the public perception of paintballers being military nuts, but I'm not about to start whinging about the scenaro games ads on here am I? I just ignore them
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[Furby]

Haven't checked out a scenario game lately, have you?

 

[SteveD]

Originally posted by Flash-Bugout
What a long thread with many big words for such a simple subject.

Yeah, everyone who is anyone knows I like to hear myself talk.