Have Delta Force changed their name? Or just some dodgy ploy?

[Dark Warrior]

Having listened to the the IPG reps in action, I believe that DF must voluntarily blinker themselves to IPG's pressure sales methods.
After all IPG work puts a lot of money in DF's coffers

 

[Orifice]

All i can say is that, DF's reputation is being hurt by these sellers, no matter how associated they are. i, nor anyone i know will ever part with money to these people, especially since they lack credibility and professionalism to the extent where i wonder (as my friends do) if the tickets are counterfit.

I would rather part with money via the internet and starve an immoral company of its profits until it cleans up its act.

I WOULD part with money to a paintball site like DF, and would encourage my friends to, but if it was endorsing activities like this, i would strongly recommend using another company or site. It may not endorse the activities, but it still opts to ignore them :/

DF's sites however, are great! i loved the day out and couldnt stop talking about it for weeks, which is enough promotion in itself! if i knew they were using good companies, id recommend them again, i just feel bad for the marshals and honest workers in DF who get associated with the scummy practise of another company.

 

[TheGurkha]

Hello Gups

Can you tell me why people that sell DF tickets in Birmingham, Wolves and Lichfield keep sending people (once they've had their money) to NPF? these people even give out a map to NPF. have they been told what site they're supposed to be selling for?? NPF has nothing to do with DF.

 

[mikeanywhere]

Having listened to the the IPG reps in action, I believe that DF must voluntarily blinker themselves to IPG's pressure sales methods.
After all IPG work puts a lot of money in DF's coffers

This isnt the first thread on this but as mentioned above they obviously bring in enough revenue to DF for them to focus on other areas.

 

[Gups]

Can you tell me why people that sell DF tickets in Birmingham, Wolves and Lichfield keep sending people (once they've had their money) to NPF? these people even give out a map to NPF. have they been told what site they're supposed to be selling for?? NPF has nothing to do with DF.

I'm a bit confused... the ticket sellers just sell the tickets, they shouldn't issue maps. The purchaser of the tickets then books online or phones the DF booking line and chooses the DF centre they want to play at. They are sent out a map and booking confirmation by the booking office. DF certainly wouldnt send out maps to NPF! They'd be silly to give away customers after going to the trouble of getting them since the only profit to be made is on the sale of paint once onsite....

It could be a case of the customers looking for DF and seeing a sign saying 'paintball' and making a mistake? This happens at Cobham all the time...we get customers for Camapign and they get our customers but we both explain they are in the wrong place and give them directions and everyone's happy.

Do you work for NPF? Is it the ticket seller that are issuing the maps? If so then yes, somethings wrong. How often does this happen? Let me know and i'll see if we can get to the bottom of it...

 

[TheGurkha]

id say at once every 2-3 months. and once we had a small group turn up, after paying for tickets, saying they went to a DF, and were turned away, and sent to NPF. i know NPF is a good site, but its a bit of a bad look for the Rec-ball side of paintball when customers spend they're mornings being sent from site to site. its a bit of a bad experience, im sure you'll agree. Iv only been in the sport for a few years, but im afraid iv only heard bad things about DF, and im sure all these things wern't just made up on the spot by someone just for fun. Why do you have such a bad reputation?

 

[TheGurkha]

oh, and yes, the map i was shown, said 'Delta Force, Bassetts pole', with directions to our front door. The group organiser said it was given to him when he brought the ticket in Lichfield(i think, might have been Burton) I might be wrong, but I didnt know NPF had changed its name... And im pretty sure we havn't been sold...

 

[Gups]

Cheers for that info, Gurkha, i'm passing that onto the IPG manager to follow up. As to 'why DF have such a bad rep' unfortunately, if you look back through the forums you'll find the majority of the posts are not first hand reports and are generally vague 'someone i know' or 'oh god not DF AGAIN..' sort of entries which are a general moan but not really a specific complaint. Then others add their 2p's worth to join in the discussion but really don't say much other than 'yeh i herd bad fings about delta too'. The genuine complaints are usually connected to ticket sellers, not the 'real' Delta Force, ie the provision of paintball games. When i hear specifics like you have mentioned, ie the map, i believe you have a genuine point.

I have published my email address on other forums and said if you have any specific complaints let me know but i have only ever received ONE!

I'd liken it to the anti-smart parts hate campaign which started a few years back when they exercised their right to the copyright of the electronic grip frame. They were within their legal rights but everyone seemed to hate them for it and EVERYONE had an opinion on it whether it affected them or ot.

 

[KitsuneAndy]

The genuine complaints are usually connected to ticket sellers,

I'd definitely agree with that. But people generally don't respond well when they find out they've been conned or whatever and most people wouldn't see the distinction between DF and the sellers. Complaints about the marketting side of DF have been around for a long time which unfortunately gives the impression that DF does turn a blind eye, or simply doesn't care what the sellers do to get the tickets out there. While not the same as condoning the dodgy behaviour, it's not really much better.

Unfortunately, being ripped off by the ticket sellers may well put those people off from going to any paintball site at all. It could easily give the public such a jaded view of paintball if it's their first ever contact with it.

 

[Missy Q]

I have known Flying Colors/Delta Foerce for many years. Probably 15 all told. I was mates with the previous owner, called Duncan Gass, who actually went insane and is now in a lunatics asylum (or some other kind of nut-house). Ivan (previously a key player for the Turks), who took it over, has done a much better job than Duncan of running a professional operation. The booking companies they use (and rely on heavily, as they don't get a lot of repeat business) have always pushed the limits. The Australian girls that used to do the phone sales would arrange to meet groups of guys at the field and lead them to believe they would get laid if they showed up. Of course these girls were tucked up in bed on the Sunday morning when the players turned up to meet them. The way they get players to thier field is definitely suspect. Its all about bums on seats - whatever it takes.
If you don't like it - don't go there. Thats what my old Pal Duncan used to say (but he did turn out to be a nutter)