Hand chronos ! Announcement!

[Collier]

Originally posted by Alan Smith
I can't understand this.

In Amsterdam we calibrated the hand-held’s to each other and the Radar chroney. We only used those hand-held’s that are consistent. As refs we did this to ensure we wouldn't pull any players due to inaccurate readings as that would be both stupid and unfair. If refs on the millennium are not calibrating the hand-held’s they use to ensure they are only using the consistent and accurate ones, then they cannot pull players on field.

We had a player pulled in our last game for precisely this reason as we checked his marker on other hand-helds and the field Radar chroney and his marker was under the limit. Basically we lost a player because a judge was running around with an in accurate hand-held. This is a JOKE.....

In the Russian Legion Game I am amazed that Sergie let the marshals take those two markers. One he obviously hadn't seen the Dynasty player’s firing that extra shot before they put their markers down and two after he had the markers checked by another chroney they were below the limit. The judges and the Ultimates applied no common sense here. If your standing around before the start of a game in that heat it's not unexpected to get reg creep and it is wholey reasonable to get a clearing shot.

In the past when we chronographed off field you were allowed one clearing shot and an average of three shots below 300 to be legal. I suggest that if Marshalls pull teams just before the start of a game the players are allowed an average of three shots. However in-game with an accurately calibrated chroney being used one shot over is reasonable to make the pull.

We have to crack down on gun cheats but lets not cripple a team in the finals because we have no common sense...............

Couldn't agree more!!!

How do you calibrate the hand held chrono's? which type were they?

Cheers,

Paul

 

[gaff]

agree 100% alan

Paul_collier again agree 100% the strap is part of the chrono and should always be used!!

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by gaff
agree 100% alan

Paul_collier again agree 100% the strap is part of the chrono and should always be used!!

How can this be done in-game though?

Paul

 

[gaff]

Originally posted by Paul_collier
How can this be done in-game though?

Paul

if you are gonna use it properly you cant without interfering with the player, the manufacturer needs to design something to allow this

 

[cjansen]

The Tigerz were on it in Amsterdam. We had the first game on the first day, and I shot for all of the handheld chronos. They then chose the most accurate one to be the field chrono. If there isn't going to be a real field chrono, this is an absolute must if you want to have any reliability, because typically those things give crap readings.

 

[gaff]

its all a bit rubish anyway, anyone chronoing their gun to a consistant 299fps is a muppett anyway, cos you only have to have a better fitting ball in the barrell and the better efficiency of the air pushing it out of the barrell wil go over 300fps easily! you need 5fps at least really to allow for the tolerances!

 

[Alan Smith]

Calibrating chronographs is very simple.

Before the first game take one players gun and fire over the Radar chroney as long as it gives a consistent reading you then use the same marker to chronograph over all the hand-held’s supplied by the series. Any hand held that is giving an inaccurate reading is chucked back in it's box not to see the light of day.

On the topic of correct use I think placing the hand held at the end of the barrel is acceptable. To get a clear reading however the hand held has to be held with the fingertips right at it's base. Not gripping the body with your whole hand as this interferes with the reading.

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by Alan Smith
Calibrating chronographs is very simple.

Before the first game take one players gun and fire over the Radar chroney as long as it gives a consistent reading you then use the same marker to chronograph over all the hand-held’s supplied by the series. Any hand held that is giving an inaccurate reading is chucked back in it's box not to see the light of day.

On the topic of correct use I think placing the hand held at the end of the barrel is acceptable. To get a clear reading however the hand held has to be held with the fingertips right at it's base. Not gripping the body with your whole hand as this interferes with the reading.

Cheers,

Paul.

 

[gaff]

Originally posted by Alan Smith


On the topic of correct use I think placing the hand held at the end of the barrel is acceptable. To get a clear reading however the hand held has to be held with the fingertips right at it's base. Not gripping the body with your whole hand as this interferes with the reading.

im not disagreeing here but next time you have a handheld, try this:

hold it directly under the barrel as you are used to doing and read the shot - say 285fps for arguments sake

then twist the handheld by about 5degrees either way and take a shot - 315fps ish this has happened to us on several occasions.

but if you use the strap every shot is 282-287fps regardless

 

[Flash-Bugout]

Originally posted by Alan Smith

If your standing around before the start of a game in that heat it's not unexpected to get reg creep and it is wholey reasonable to get a clearing shot.

But what about standing around behind a bunker in the heat, as you squeegee, re-pot, and then get your teammate to put the player in who's on you?
Do you then shoot a clearing shot into the ground by your feet to make sure your reg hasn't crept up to put your velocity over 300?

Personally, I say that a shot over 300 fps is a shot over 300 fps, if your reg creeps up, then you have a cack reg, and you should wind it down to allow for reg creep.

All these people complaining that the promoters should get their equipment up to scratch, shouldn't the players make sure thay have decent up to scratch kit too (eg non-creeping regs)?


Just my tuppence worth.