Gun rules

[gaff]

what calibrated instrument will be used to measure the last trigger pull versus the 100ms delay to the final discharge? cos if you aint got an instrument, you aint got a rule! cos i would not be happy with a human telling me that a ball was discharged 85ms or 105ms after the trigger pull by hearing alone!

also with the ramping, unless you have a machine to test that each trigger pull equals one shot and that it is not ramping you cannot instill this rule either! same as last season! 15bps capped is the way forward, but unless you can test for ramping by a machine/robot or test the delay between trigger pull and discharge by a claibrated instrument you cannot enforce this rule!

in HB this past weekend the chrono judges, tested by hand for bounce and ramping. when they determined that the gun was not legal they told the guy/girl to sort it out before enetering the field. if they argued or did not agree, then the robot was offered as the backup to the judges decision. most people chose to sort it there and then!

 

[Claudio]

Read point 19.04 again


19.04 After a marker passes the above inspection, such marker will then be checked for bounce, runaway and velocity (the “Rate of Fire Cap Test” will be made only during the game )


So no point to using a robot in the pre-game test....

That's why the question remains, how the F**k you will be able to cap you gun by yourself before packing your gear and going to the tourney ?

 

[Steve Hancock]

I thought they had announced that they would be allowing ramp? PA/PSP style. Was that a rumour, or have they changed their minds again?

 

[Kevin]

2. Any device, part, item, adjustment or lack thereof which would enable a player to increase either the muzzle velocity of the marker or change the shooting mode on the game field without resorting to the use of tools

so you cant use a gun that has one of the pa/psp or whatever modes on, cos you can adjust them without tools...
is that right ?

is it only the millenium that isnt allowing ramping ?

 

[John C]

Originally posted by Kevin
so you cant use a gun that has one of the pa/psp or whatever modes on, cos you can adjust them without tools...
is that right ?

is it only the millenium that isnt allowing ramping ?

I would imagine most guns require tools to change modes.

I know with the angel you need an alan key to open the grips in order to change the firing mode.

Im sure its the same on a lot of the others...

 

[Chicago]

Originally posted by gaff
what calibrated instrument will be used to measure the last trigger pull versus the 100ms delay to the final discharge?

Eh, the rule doesn't really need to be enforced. You just need to enforce the one ball per pull rule. Nobody is going to design a board that WAITS LONGER to shoot.

 

[Steve Morris]

Originally posted by Steve Hancock
I thought they had announced that they would be allowing ramp? PA/PSP style. Was that a rumour, or have they changed their minds again?

Millennium said they would not allow "ramping" in the same press release that they published at the end of January where they announced the 15bps cap . Immediately thereafter there was a lot of discussion about whether or not "electronic" help should be allowed. I wondered at the time if they meant ramping velocity (a bigger safety problem IMO) instead of ramping ROF.

 

[fred1]

Just to come back to the 15BPS cap. There is basically no way to make your marker MS legal other than by purchasing a new board that allows you to set up a 65ms delay between each shot, is that correct? Which means most players will arrive in Bitburg with markers that do not conform to this years MS rules?

We don't even know if there will be any boards available in Bitburg nor if the MS really has anyway to enforce this new rule. I'm just don't understand where we are heading with this and what is expected from us players..... can anybody clarify.

 

[Piper]

There are rules within rules.
When you go into certain countries in Europe your rules and regs have to read a certain way, as anything but semi auto is illegal. So at a guess I would say that the Millennium have put semi auto in the rules so that you monkeys can play in certain countries in Europe. The country in question is....... Answers on a postcard to the normal address.

 

[Rabies]

Andy,

Are you simply pointing out the the rule has to conform to the lowest common denominator for play to be legal in all the countries where Millenniums are held?

Or (sinister music) are you pointing to this being a "blind eye" rule, written to satify lawyers and insurance agents, but actually allowing any firing modes between true semiautomatic and what the gun testing rules actually look for?

EDIT: Or possibly a hint that rules might be subtly changed after the first event of the season?