I find that amazing
I don't like scenario games. They're out of control, they're dangerous, and someone will get hurt someday unless someone gets their stuff together. It's a miracle that nobody's gotten cold-cocked or beat-down by players who get 'over-zealous' with their assumed 'roles'. Dollack pretty much solidified my opinions of scenarios about 2+ years ago, and with the exception of Shatnerball, I have avoided the scenario stuff for the most part.
I also don't like scenario games that try to 'recreate' warfare. I feel that it's making money off the dead, and it's trivialising the sacrifices they made. If you're going to recreate warfare, then scenario game directors need to go even further. On this board some time ago, I asked someone (who was saying that "D-Day" scenario was going to be the best recreation ever) if I could wear my best friend's brains on my shoulder as we 'storm the beach'? War is not a pleasant affair, something that we've all lost site of becasue of 'push-button warfare'.
I also have VERY PERSONAL reasons for not liking people who emulate Nazi troops. There's a team of kids who play in Wisconsin here who revel in the "SS" imagery, including their 'team shirt' with Nazi symbology. (Ask Alien or Yoda, they saw them at Sam's...) So far, I've managed to restrain myself from using my Stroker as a rectal examination tool, but my patience with them is rapidly running out. I can rack that up to youth and rebellion, but not for he guys who are 25+ who do the same thing.
Do I think it's a problem? Not really a group problem, becasue for the most part it's only small groups and peoples that do this out of a larger whole. If there was a field that was called "Waffen Proving Grounds", then you'd have a bigger problem. Individuals are not a problem. Just keep in mind many bikers also revel in the "Nazi" image too.
Now, on the other hand, if a news program went to that scenario game, saw this guy in his full Nazi getup, and asked him "So do yo like to shoot the Americans?" And he said anything like "yeah", we're screwed. If they could goad him into a "Seig Heil", we're screwed big time. And if they can find a group of 3 guys to do it all together, we're S.O.L.
Oh, and as for th Salm BS, whatever guys. Go pretend to be athletes and think you're creating a better image for paintball. You're running in place, not progressing, not going anywhere. But hell, who the hell cares. Make your money, get out while you can, and rape the players wallets. Cheaters, Nazi wannabees, militia training... until we collectively get our **** together there won't be an image we can use to combat the media who wants to make a story. Wanna make a diffrence? Lead, Follow, or get the hell out of the way.
-Tyger
A part of me is screaming not to get dragged into another political BS thing, becasue I'm in the mood to punch someone in the teeth and make them scream for thier mommy. on the other hand, it needs to be said. Again.Originally posted by TJ Lambini
It's weird that the Salm thing and these T-shirts are getting knickers in a twist, yet I looked through a recent issue of a pball magazine and there's a pic from a scenario game of a guy with a Nazi uniform and an SS badge on.
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Wolf and Tyger - you both felt that tha Salm thing was cataclysmically bad, how do you feel about that picture?
I don't like scenario games. They're out of control, they're dangerous, and someone will get hurt someday unless someone gets their stuff together. It's a miracle that nobody's gotten cold-cocked or beat-down by players who get 'over-zealous' with their assumed 'roles'. Dollack pretty much solidified my opinions of scenarios about 2+ years ago, and with the exception of Shatnerball, I have avoided the scenario stuff for the most part.
I also don't like scenario games that try to 'recreate' warfare. I feel that it's making money off the dead, and it's trivialising the sacrifices they made. If you're going to recreate warfare, then scenario game directors need to go even further. On this board some time ago, I asked someone (who was saying that "D-Day" scenario was going to be the best recreation ever) if I could wear my best friend's brains on my shoulder as we 'storm the beach'? War is not a pleasant affair, something that we've all lost site of becasue of 'push-button warfare'.
I also have VERY PERSONAL reasons for not liking people who emulate Nazi troops. There's a team of kids who play in Wisconsin here who revel in the "SS" imagery, including their 'team shirt' with Nazi symbology. (Ask Alien or Yoda, they saw them at Sam's...) So far, I've managed to restrain myself from using my Stroker as a rectal examination tool, but my patience with them is rapidly running out. I can rack that up to youth and rebellion, but not for he guys who are 25+ who do the same thing.
Do I think it's a problem? Not really a group problem, becasue for the most part it's only small groups and peoples that do this out of a larger whole. If there was a field that was called "Waffen Proving Grounds", then you'd have a bigger problem. Individuals are not a problem. Just keep in mind many bikers also revel in the "Nazi" image too.
Now, on the other hand, if a news program went to that scenario game, saw this guy in his full Nazi getup, and asked him "So do yo like to shoot the Americans?" And he said anything like "yeah", we're screwed. If they could goad him into a "Seig Heil", we're screwed big time. And if they can find a group of 3 guys to do it all together, we're S.O.L.
Oh, and as for th Salm BS, whatever guys. Go pretend to be athletes and think you're creating a better image for paintball. You're running in place, not progressing, not going anywhere. But hell, who the hell cares. Make your money, get out while you can, and rape the players wallets. Cheaters, Nazi wannabees, militia training... until we collectively get our **** together there won't be an image we can use to combat the media who wants to make a story. Wanna make a diffrence? Lead, Follow, or get the hell out of the way.
-Tyger