Originally posted by Tyger
In order :
Be provocative! Dammit! Enough of hte pussyfooting here, if you got an opinion, don't qualify it! I know that basic human rights allow you to have your own opinions!!! Get provocative! GEt in my face! Get a good debate (note the word is DEBATE, not argument!) going! Dare to piss someone off!
As far as my qualifiers go, let me tell you a story. There's a guy who lives around Las Vegas. Lived there most his life. He said once that nothing surprises him, but he sees something new every day. I may nopt play pro ball, mostly by choice, but on the other hand I'm exposed to the dregs of it on a week to week basis when I do play REC.
And I have seen a 5 man team in Minnesota perform what I would call a pre-mapped wipe! It was freaking brililant! Front man gets hit, he yells a signal to his back guy, back guy throws a volly downfield, front guy gets up and runs. If he can't wipe the hit with the pumping of his arms and legs he makes a creative slide into a bunker. And this was a PLANNED MOVE! And it was a team move as well, as both flanks had the plan.
Do I say pro guys do it? I am not qualified to say, that I admit. But when you see 5 individuals willing to push the limits of the ruiles to the breaking point, it may as well be team condoned cheating.
And, cynics in paintbakll are nessary, but it sucks to be one. I gotta take this hardline every timre I see an argument like this.
-Tyger (Paintball's answer to Eeyore...)
OK, now I see where the problem lies, we are actually talking cross-purposes with a common theme.
I agree with you, there have been institutionalised policies of cheating within teams when it comes to actions like wiping, playing on etc and 'yes' I have heard about dial-ups on squeegees and welded hex shapes on people's rings but I think the latter was more a unilateral action by players within a team.
It is much more of a determined and serious matter when a team as a whole (presumably with the captains consent) decide to wind up their guns.
The reason is because, a wiping and playing on incident can always be put down to a spontaneous action even if those actions are reflected across several members of a team in a single game.
But it's an altogether different proposition if those members have all deliberately designed a cheat into their gun; it shows forethought, collaboration and a complete denial of the rule-book and all it stands for.
Not just morally but also from a safety point of view and therefore I think teams have steered away from this dire leap into the quagmire of cheating.
On that note, I stand by my original assertion of it being news and ask you to reconsider what I have said bearing in mind that I have been on the pro circuit and been around all the top teams for nearly 15 years or so.
But once again, I ain't saying for one minute I know everything that is going on but my recent alliance with cynicism would hardly blind me to anything like this, but let me know if it has
Pete