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Dartford 7s 27th June

Troggy

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Glen,

I think you'll find that there is a copy of the rule book in the field ultimate's folder for each field. As I heard it (I gave both the marshalls that gave the initial penalty a lift home ;) ) they dealt the penalty as stated in the rule book, even though they felt themselves it was too harsh for the offence but rules are rules.

I feel that what may have happened here is there is an oversight between the parts of the PA rule book that the D7's have dropped. The PA does not have a 1:4:1 penalty system but instead use the "Soster's Law" whereby for a major offence 50 penalty points are issued to the team and the offending player must miss the next game thus leaving the team with 6 players. I think (but may be wrong) that the D7's decided to use the 1:4:1 ruling and overlooked the removal of the compulsory 50 penalty points.

Anyhoo, rulez is rulez and fairs fair. It was just another branch from the tree of knowledge for the chimps to swing on in their first tourney.

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ohhhhhhhhh, I wasn't criticising the Marshals at all, it was a playing-on offence, correctly pulled. It's the rule book. I must admit I had read some of the rules on-line and when trying to counsel Jack over his questioning of the severity of the penalty, the rules were so confusing we could've been told to eat blue cheese. I know Millennium NPPL rules are also quite ridiculous in areas, but this is an area of the D7 rulebook that may need a little attention. That saying it's still the best domestic event as it caters 100% towards the player.

Still big respect to jack, the marshals and the Ultimate for keeping their cool, even when my advice to Jack was threaten to kill and brutalise their Wives, Families and Pets. In retrospect I realise my approach to such a problem may not have yielded such conciliatory results. ;)
 

MrPink

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Originally posted by stongle
Still big respect to jack, the marshals and the Ultimate for keeping their cool, even when my advice to Jack was threaten to kill and brutalise their Wives, Families and Pets. In retrospect I realise my approach to such a problem may not have yielded such conciliatory results. ;)
No more PCP's for you! :D

Have to agree - the rulebook is good, but could use a little proof-reading by an experienced Ref or too, just to prevent a similar overly harsh penalising:)

Still, rock on the 27th - gotta love the series so far, and it can only get better:cool: :) :D
 

stongle

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Originally posted by MrPink
No more PCP's for you! :D

Have to agree - the rulebook is good, but could use a little proof-reading by an experienced Ref or too, just to prevent a similar overly harsh penalising:)

Still, rock on the 27th - gotta love the series so far, and it can only get better:cool: :) :D
It was somewhat fortuitous it was that week-end in particular. If you remember correctly I had left my DeWalt nail gun and can of paraffin elsewhere...........;) :eek: ;)
 

D6

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So- can someone clarify for future reference- would I *hypothetically* get 1-4-1'd for playing on, or get my teams score deducted 50 points and miss the next game?
 

Kieran

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Im back online now and more sober ;) But the beach is trying to lure me back as we speak.

Rules - there are changes that are being made, the 1-4-1 and penalty point issue is meant to be an 'and possibly' situation where it is up to the marshals' discretion to penalise with penalty points accoring to the severity of the offence. This will be corrected in the rulebook as soon as I get a chance.

Kieran
 

MrPink

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Originally posted by stongle
It was somewhat fortuitous it was that week-end in particular. If you remember correctly I had left my DeWalt nail gun and can of paraffin elsewhere...........;) :eek: ;)
No - I had confiscated them for fear of having to hold off the cozzers as you make your escape by hi-jacking a Korean Tanker bound for the Algarve!;) :p