Bottle Issue Again
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Yeah, silly me!! 
This has been a bone of contention in the past and will need someone in the know to help us ballers. Seems a little daft that if we have bottles tested by HPAC to the supposed standard to ensures it is at a safe standard to use and to travel with that we cant take it abroad.
So we need two bottles then - one for domestic tourney (I am using the example of a retested bottle without the pi mark) and another for international events!!
This has been a bone of contention in the past and will need someone in the know to help us ballers. Seems a little daft that if we have bottles tested by HPAC to the supposed standard to ensures it is at a safe standard to use and to travel with that we cant take it abroad.
So we need two bottles then - one for domestic tourney (I am using the example of a retested bottle without the pi mark) and another for international events!!
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Its simple, u need a bottle with the Pi mark, if u ain't got one, get one. If its millennium rules the way I see it. It will be the same at campaign... Nuff said...
Dye do a lovely throttle system!!
Its simple, u need a bottle with the Pi mark, if u ain't got one, get one. If its millennium rules the way I see it. It will be the same at campaign... Nuff said...
Dye do a lovely throttle system!!
brrrrrrrrrrr
Remember psyco the silent majority actualy tend to have to pay (at least trade anyway) for there kit. There not all fortunate enough to play for top teams for who this is not likely to be an issue / are playing all events therfore spreading a neglageble cost increase.
But why should I shell out £100+ notes to play maybe 2 or 3 events when I have TWO perfectly good, H-Pac TESTED bottles in my kit bag already. If the industry has known about this for donkys WTF have they anounced this like 2 WEEKS b4 an event ???? And as detailed above, if there legal in this coutry, but CC (H-PAC) wont fill em how many of the UK based teams who only ever do CC do you think are going to be happy to add £100 bill on top of an already expensive event. ??Originally posted by psycho
Its simple, u need a bottle with the Pi mark, if u ain't got one, get one. If its millennium rules the way I see it. It will be the same at campaign... Nuff said...
Dye do a lovely throttle system!!
Remember psyco the silent majority actualy tend to have to pay (at least trade anyway) for there kit. There not all fortunate enough to play for top teams for who this is not likely to be an issue / are playing all events therfore spreading a neglageble cost increase.
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Dude, I totally agree with you but the fact is, the Millennium series aint gonna go out of the way to make it easy for everyone, the truth is, if u aint got the Pi stamp, they are basically gonna say, hardluck. It sucks how they do it, but I am just sayin, thats the way it's gonna be..
Dude, I totally agree with you but the fact is, the Millennium series aint gonna go out of the way to make it easy for everyone, the truth is, if u aint got the Pi stamp, they are basically gonna say, hardluck. It sucks how they do it, but I am just sayin, thats the way it's gonna be..
Millennium can enforce that rule in europe because that is european legislation. The UK has agreed to that legislation but there is dispensation in this country, due to us having an existing standard, which is being phased out. HPAC are legally within their rights to accept any in test HSE bottle presented to them to fill at Campaign. Now if the MS board wish them to do otherwise at Campaign then that can cause a problem because they have no legal base for their stance.
So if you want to play in Europe get a pi bottle it's not a money spinner more a compliance with EEC regs
If you are only playing the UK leg of the series then hold off spending any money as yet.
So if you want to play in Europe get a pi bottle it's not a money spinner more a compliance with EEC regs
If you are only playing the UK leg of the series then hold off spending any money as yet.
I wonder if it's the MILLENNIUM/H-PAC INSURANCE thats the hiccup here?? Maybe the insurance co are putting the pi marked restrictions in place...a bit like my sons car insurance...you can legally drive BY LAW after consuming 'x' units of alcohol BUT his insurance stipulates if he has had ANY alcohol whatsoever then the insurance is void. Just them minimising their losses against young drivers whose judgement may be impared by ONE drink i guess. Maybe this is the same with the H-PAc thing, or the people checking the bottles would need to know legislation from up to 15 years ago from umpteen different countries to judge whether a bottle is legal. I think we're on a no-hoper...luckily for me my air bottles are pi marked
The press release did say it was for insurance purposes.
Which sucks, but next year when the insurance companies say that all goggles must have chin-straps, you'd better believe that you won't be playing without one.
I hate insurance companies - always putting up their premiums, and never giving anything back...
Totaly understand the insurence thing, i've ran a site b4 so I know the funny clauses they can throw in, BUT, if the current UK standard is equal to in all but stamp mark to the new EU standard, how hard did the MS explain this to the insurence company on behalf of their customers ???
It's like saying you can only drive your car if it passed an MOT at a station with a 'wibble' stamp ?!?
And how long before they bring out the ' must be purchased from a MS sponsor' line ???? OK now i'm just being silly................???
It's like saying you can only drive your car if it passed an MOT at a station with a 'wibble' stamp ?!?
And how long before they bring out the ' must be purchased from a MS sponsor' line ???? OK now i'm just being silly................???
Gah.
Holy you people don't understand anything about the stamps.
The stamp is a government certification that the bottle the stamp is on is approved for holding a compressed gas. This has nothing to do with millenium - either it's legal for the bottle to be filled with compressed gas, or it ain't.
Getting the stamp has *NOTHING* to do with testing. Whether or not a bottle has a stamp is determined by its design - if it's manufactured to an approved specification, it gets the stamp, if not, then not. The only thing TESTING does is extend the EXPIRATION DATE.
Now, what you MAY want to look into, as I have no idea if this happened in Europe or not, i whether your particular model of bottle got approved for whatever standard it is that gets yu a pi mark AFTER the date of manufacture for your particular bottle - you'd probably find that out at your bottle manufacturer's website.
But, again, this has *NOTHING* to do with millenium and everything to do with the laws your governmetn has created regulating compressed air cylinders.
Holy you people don't understand anything about the stamps.
The stamp is a government certification that the bottle the stamp is on is approved for holding a compressed gas. This has nothing to do with millenium - either it's legal for the bottle to be filled with compressed gas, or it ain't.
Getting the stamp has *NOTHING* to do with testing. Whether or not a bottle has a stamp is determined by its design - if it's manufactured to an approved specification, it gets the stamp, if not, then not. The only thing TESTING does is extend the EXPIRATION DATE.
Now, what you MAY want to look into, as I have no idea if this happened in Europe or not, i whether your particular model of bottle got approved for whatever standard it is that gets yu a pi mark AFTER the date of manufacture for your particular bottle - you'd probably find that out at your bottle manufacturer's website.
But, again, this has *NOTHING* to do with millenium and everything to do with the laws your governmetn has created regulating compressed air cylinders.