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Jeff Abbott - Dye

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you'll be fine then
maybe I will....maybe I won't...

That's what we are discussing...you know... life or death.

It would appear you don't care either way, so why don't you leave the talking to those that do...

keka
 

ItchyTFN

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Then don't stand next to him. I should think that most sites will temporarily ban the use of Stako's until the official report comes back as to what happened to Nige's bottle. Just ask at the site when you turn up.
Even being 200metres away might not even help you..

I believe Freekz have taken absoloutly the correct measures with this. I really do hope for all our sakes that all sites/organisers follow suit and stay that way until these bottles are investigated fully and deemed 100% safe. Us as players should demand this for our own safety..
 

ItchyTFN

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Agreed, so all this waffle on this subject still points to the fact that, until proven otherwise the majority of players would prefer to err on the side of caution and see stako bottles suspended until offical enquires are completed and the results published.
I would hope that the majority believe this and push for this to happen Phil. This is the right thing to do given the situation and factual record of these bottles.

Otherwise it will take a death for people to sit up and take note, and that is definately something that everyone believes they dont want to happen..
 
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TendringLOEB

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Personally never used a Stako, never will, the extra few ounces don't make a massive difference to me.

Can everyone just stop exploding please?
 

Oppy

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Simple

HPA can dangerous in most situations if it isn't managed correctly - Fact

I personally believe Stako's are fine & HPAC are probably the best Air suppliers around - they know their onions about tanks and air - end of.

I think the recent accidents are a culmination of MANY factors. Oil was a new factor recently - how many people can honestly hold their hands up and say they know more than even the basics of looking after your air tank??? Before some of you nobbers start, I'm not saying this applies in particular to Nige but as a general question on the whole to the paintball community...? Not many i bet...

Nobody said to me at any point prior to the Madrid incident "hey don't put oil in your fill nipple..." Never had a reason too as i think even my basic common sense would have stopped me but who stops little Herbert or Johnny doing it because his tank jams on the fill rig and thinks that would be a solution...

When i started paintballing - none of the shops mentioned anything about air - I bought my marker, air tank, goggs, protection etc etc but never did anyone mention the dangers of playing with a big air bomb stuck under your face! Not saying the shops are to blame as that's bull, but what i am badly saying here is that educating people (and also sites) in the safe use of HPA would be my first course here. I've been to sites where they still use big air tanks and even those have $hit me up using them...

So where do we learn? It's normally from hearsay, forums, advice at games/training etc. But its not till something happens does someone say something..

We need to be looking at solutions, not witch hunting and banning. If more people had productive ideas then surely we could go forward as opposed to shouting "BAN" at Stako each time or blaming HPAC or the holy mother for that matter...

After trawling through this thread, i was surprised to find I wasn't aware of the scheme done with Fat Bobs and HPAC and this training/pass scheme which seems a great step - especially as I see way, way, way too many people at the fill rigs messing about (CC 06 was a scary one..) blasting air into their tanks in one go, no break etc - Maybe we should ask HPAC or the fields to take responsibility for filling up for everyone in the meantime? Or even do a scheme of competent use of air/tanks? Only then would you at least say that it was the bottles/regs fault as it was filled correctly etc etc etc - I know it's not foolproof but a a step in the right direction maybe?

Training is one step - slowing the fill I would also hazard a guess would be another step (lets face it, it would only slow you down by a minute or so and if your filling up late - tough!) Does it matter how quick it fills up???

One thing I do know is I'm glad Nige is okay and still about to tell this story, even if he now sports a "brown" go faster stripe in his pants...

I don't know the facts on this as I've mentioned and not embarrassed to say I know jack $$$$ about air and it's effects, how it ignites etc, but oddly I know quite a bit more than most which makes me worry about the large amount of people out there who know way less than me - if that makes sense...

But people should look at the broader picture here and wait till more information is available to the cause. So you can put your pitchforks and flaming torches away for now... and maybe come up with some solutions which will help everyone play safely. Remember it's your choice/opinion etc to use them in the meantime.

Glad you're cool Nige :)

EDIT: flame away.. :rolleyes:
 

Seany

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I dont think anyone in this thread is suggesting we do nothing about it.


What people are saying is, rather than taking the first plausible idea and running with it, we should allow the experts to find out what really happened and take steps to prevent it happening again based on their findings.

Banning the wrong thing can be counter productive, because it would restore confidence without improving safety.
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that sums the thread up pretty well
 
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Jeff Abbott - Dye

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^^^^^

that sums the thread up pretty well
Stakos are exploding
Stop using Stakos

That sums the thread up.

If other tanks start exploding then stop using them as well!!!

No one is saying ban the wrong thing or the right thing but one make of tank is involved in the last 3 instances, so.... oh f**k it.

You know what, I give up.

Kill or be killed seem to be the only options judging by the responses on here but there is another...

Don't kill and don't be killed.

Over and out

keka
 

Broni

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Stakos are exploding
Stop using Stakos

That sums the thread up.

If other tanks start exploding then stop using them as well!!!

No one is saying ban the wrong thing or the right thing but one make of tank is involved in the last 3 instances, so.... oh f**k it.

You know what, I give up.

Kill or be killed seem to be the only options judging by the responses on here but there is another...

Don't kill and don't be killed.

Over and out

keka
This is getting stupid, It's a bloody witchhunt. Most of us are in no position to comment on what happened. The only thing any of us can do is speculate which isn't really helpful in any way.

Yes, the fault should be found and things need to happen but that's the job of people who know what they are doing. The main thing is no-one was killed and incidents like this need to not occur again! If someone gets killed or seriously injured that could very well be the end of paintball. That might be an exaggeration, I don't know but it's a very real possibility that the sport could be banned in the case of a fatality.

Preventing this happening in the future is the real point, not crucifing Stako when it may not be their fault.