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Gillie

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Guppy,

You're way too good and experienced a marshal to let something like this bother you. You're the marshal. You're the one on the spot. Whatever you call IS right at the time. No argument. No discussion.

Whatever call our marshals make we back them up 100%. In a situation like that your call will ALWAYs be right. On another day, you feeling a bit different, the weather a bit sunnier, the game a bit slower, 5 minutes to go instead of 30 seconds you might have have made the complete opposite call and pulled all 3 being called upon to surrender. Who knows :)

Don't ever have self doubt about a call...before you know it you'll be questioning every call if you're not careful and that's a slippery road you do not want to go down...

The solution is "to get some boots one size too small"...and if anyone can tell me who originaly gave that advice and who they gave it to I'll by them a case of paint <bg>

(oh and this is Hatts btw...not Gillie..I just "borrowing" her computer for a bit:) )
 

guppy

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Hiya Hatts

yeah i guess you're right about how i saw it on the day. Its just that there seems to be so much bad reffing that everyone goes on about i thought i'd check this one out with the guys. Not that it was like series 2002 or anything!! tf! Thanks m8!
 

ez-rhino

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When e do the talks to rental customers on the use of the surrender rule, we always advise that is is used for 1-2-1 situations, otherwise you get some new player running up to 10 opposition players and shouting surrender.

Then when we've helped the player off the floor and bandaged his wounds we explain again how the rule was supposed to work.

If you shout surrender at more than one person, it doesn't work. Someone is gong to end up either a) disappointed or b) hurt.

In your situation I would have put the player who shouted surrender back in the game in a safe position and let them get on with, after all they're there for some fun
 

Darkwerks

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Originally posted by Gillie




The solution is "to get some boots one size too small"...and if anyone can tell me who originaly gave that advice and who they gave it to I'll by them a case of paint <bg>

ooh. oh, it was senior Judge advising a rookie Judge-cadet Dredd from 2000 AD . Can't remember his name, do i win?? :D
 
I never marshalled in my life but if that guy would have started shooting..then those three would have started shooting and they'd all be covered in paint so you maybe should have pulled all of them.
Once when I was playing with some rental guys we agreed that there would be no mugging.I ended upin a situation where I was right next to the guy and would have to get a surrender.In doing this the other guy figured out where I was and popped me whilst getting the surrender confirmed.
In that situation now on I offer no surrender to any player:)

Slightly OT:

Do you think sites should have these wierd rules?
ie: NO headshots, Heasdshots dont count ,NO mugging, NO blind shooting.Things like that?

NO headshots, Heasdshots dont count ? WTF combination is that?
That could mean that you could fire a whole hopper into someones head?
 

Liz

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Originally posted by skullicious
Do you think sites should have these wierd rules?
ie: NO headshots, Heasdshots dont count ,NO mugging, NO blind shooting.Things like that?

NO headshots, Heasdshots dont count ? WTF combination is that?
That could mean that you could fire a whole hopper into someones head?
The idea behind the no headshots/headshots don't count rule is to prevent rental customers/newbies being given a world of pain as headshots are a) often the most painful & b) potentially the most damaging e.g. concussion.
If headshots don't count, then in theory there's no point in shooting someone in the head. The only people who would then intentionally put a hopper load into someone's head are those who are right ba$tard$ who want to hurt people for the fun of it, hence the no headshots rule. Of course there will always be a few shots that go astray & hit someone in the head or goggles but at least you don't end up with newbies sick & concussed for being over shot in the head.
 
Okay...
how composed and accurate is your average newbie+sitegun combination.
Eg.
A guy sticks his head over the top of a bunker.Is the player watching him going to wait until he reveals his neck?shoulder?

I understand your point completely Liz but
on a different level it just doesn't make sense.

Why don't you just say....No overshooting?

The people know that paintballs hurt and they sign a disclaimer before they walk on the field.

I've played on fields like that once and I would shoot a guy in the goggles just to try and "blind" him.It became a popular tactic during that day.

Then the danger would come from staggering around the woods with smeared googles and tripping over a tree root.
As I soon found out.
:(
 

TonyF

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good call

Hi Guppy
Sounds like a good call to me. 3 on one the guy had no real chance at that range. One of them would have surely lit him up, before he could have took all three.
Better than the lot I had Saturday...Ended up disqualifying a whole team from one game.
Now thinking..no longer enjoying marshaling and may just pack it all in! Some of them just don't deserve marshals, and safe and fair games.
 
Originally posted by Liz

The idea behind the no headshots/headshots don't count rule is to prevent rental customers/newbies being given a world of pain as headshots are a) often the most painful & b) potentially the most damaging e.g. concussion.
If headshots don't count, then in theory there's no point in shooting someone in the head. The only people who would then intentionally put a hopper load into someone's head are those who are right ba$tard$ who want to hurt people for the fun of it, hence the no headshots rule. Of course there will always be a few shots that go astray & hit someone in the head or goggles but at least you don't end up with newbies sick & concussed for being over shot in the head.
Lol wasn't Liz the person who told us to shot terenace and philip in the head, because if they can't see out of thier goggles they cant fire back at ya???
 

Liz

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Originally posted by Tortoise-Licker


Lol wasn't Liz the person who told us to shot terenace and philip in the head, because if they can't see out of thier goggles they cant fire back at ya???
Well, there's a couple of things here. Firstly, Terrence & Philip weren't exactly newbies who would be put off that much & secondly, with those great big white things on their heads it was probably the least painful place to shoot them!:D