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Are Jt Masks Getting Banned????

Matski

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So, the new ghetto agg of 'hanging a stars n stripes doo-rag from your chin strap' to...look 'totally cool' (obviously) and (cunningly) to catch chest shots like an airbag, is gonna cause all kinds of rule havoc. Bush will be bombing another country because of this, everything had a knock-on effect, damn you all!
 

JamieD

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its not the fact of wearing the chin strap that they are getting at, its the modifying the mask correct?

if it was about wearing it then they would have to ban every other type of mask other than the newer proflexes or the headshield one (i think that has a chinstrap :confused: )

i just think saying that because you cut off the chinstrap you cant use them is a bit extreme, its not changing the mask in any way other than removing something that you dont wear anyway, what about the peak, taking that off is modifying it but yet you are still allowed to take that off.

I think they should just stick with what they have now, but im sure we will soon see
 

Rob - Nott'm Tremmor

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Originally posted by JamieD
its not the fact of wearing the chin strap that they are getting at, its the modifying the mask correct?

if it was about wearing it then they would have to ban every other type of mask other than the newer proflexes or the headshield one (i think that has a chinstrap :confused: )

i just think saying that because you cut off the chinstrap you cant use them is a bit extreme, its not changing the mask in any way other than removing something that you dont wear anyway, what about the peak, taking that off is modifying it but yet you are still allowed to take that off.

I think they should just stick with what they have now, but im sure we will soon see
Yeah , I know what you're saying , but surely , the Peak is designed to be removable , where-as the chin straps on these goggles , are not. If you remove the peak , you can put it back on , in its original format. If you cut off the chin strap , it cannot be replaced and have the same integrity.

The goggles are certified to be used as they are made. What you get out of the box , is what you are meant to use. If you permenantly remove something from the system , that was not designed and manufactured to be removable/replaceable , then you have modified the goggle. Then you cant use it , because it is no longer certified , and therefore insurance could be void.

Just because the goggle is supplied with something , does not mean you have to use it ( unless a ruling is put in place to say you must ) , but it means the goggle is still to manufacturers spec , and is still certified.

As I see it , that is why the ruling is in place. It has been for years. You have not been able to play with modified goggles , its just that this year , it has been specifically bought up. We'll have to see if they do actually enforce the rule , but I know last year , one of my players had to change goggles because the faceplate was deformed because it had been scrunched up in his bag. That was considered modified.
 

Parksy

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Originally posted by Rob - Nott'm Tremmor
and therefore insurance could be void.
Interesting that you mention insurance Rob :)

This is the only reason I could have thought the rule was being brought into place.

I would understand that insurance for a player would be void if we modified say goggles or other safety based kit. However looking at the PA form that I signed I appear to have waived any right to claim for any kind of injury sustained at the event anyway, as you do at most events.

Tha last paragraph reading " I have read and fully understood this agreement. I am aware that by signing this agreement I acknowledge and accept the inherent risk that paintball entials and I waive any claim that may result in my participation in the sport of paintball "
 

Matski

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Im not sure if all of my paintballs are exactly 0.68 cal, does that mean i can only play with the ones that are 0.68 cal?, Will there be spot diameter checks? What if my ball seams are uneven?

Just incase, I think the PA should create a rule where the game should be stopped everytime a player is shot so that the shooter and shot can sign a disclaimer.


Seriously.
 

jonhaley

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Originally posted by Parksy
However looking at the PA form that I signed I appear to have waived any right to claim for any kind of injury sustained at the event anyway, as you do at most events.

Tha last paragraph reading " I have read and fully understood this agreement. I am aware that by signing this agreement I acknowledge and accept the inherent risk that paintball entials and I waive any claim that may result in my participation in the sport of paintball "
Well, you are right that most events ask you to sign a waiver in that form but, as a matter of law you can never sign away your rights against someone for personal injury (or death) resulting from their negligence.
 

fierce

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The rule about "modified Goggles" has been implemented in 2003. I bet no one, and really no one cares about removed Chin Straps, it's rather about this issue:



btw. nice pants LaSoya :)
 

Mario

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Originally posted by Parksy
Interesting that you mention insurance Rob :)

This is the only reason I could have thought the rule was being brought into place.

I would understand that insurance for a player would be void if we modified say goggles or other safety based kit. However looking at the PA form that I signed I appear to have waived any right to claim for any kind of injury sustained at the event anyway, as you do at most events.

Tha last paragraph reading " I have read and fully understood this agreement. I am aware that by signing this agreement I acknowledge and accept the inherent risk that paintball entials and I waive any claim that may result in my participation in the sport of paintball "
you modifying your goggles is not the pa's fault. if you have your own life insurance etc is where there coming from i think....
 

Flash-Bugout

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Originally posted by John C
If I wanted to add a chinstrap to my old proflexes, would I be allowed to play the PA anymore, because I have modified my mask?
You wouldn't be allowed to play in ANY tourney for about the past 5 years.

Well, if they'd actually had the balls to follow through the rules in their rule book that is ;)