Air Training should it be a prerequisite before you are allowed to self fill.

[arg1271]

I have been speaking to my compressor specialist this week. i have been using HPA for many years now but it still scares the hell out of me. I will then run saftey briefs for everyone on filling their bottles safely and what not to do with them.

As far as i know but dont take this as 100% fact until i get more advice. Anyone that brings their own bottle to site is solely responsable for that and the filling of it.

My compressor is being fitted with a carbon filter so that no matter what no oil or water can pass through to the filling end. It will also have a speed fill fitted at a rate of 100psi per second. And within the next 2 weeks will have a blast box which you will place your bottle down into after connecting the fill line and then you can leave it there and then fill a few feet away. I have seen to many times people looking at their reg to see how much air is in the bottle inches away and had to tell them that the regulator on the compressor is set at either 200-300 bar so you cannot overfill. All this will be explained from this weekend.....

Rob
D7's North
D7's Outlawz
www.proaktivpaintball.co.uk

I hope you'll also be checking how many hours the compressor is run for, bleeding the filter etc.
sorry if it's something you're already aware of (I'm sure you are) just that I completed my BSAC compressor operator course a couple of weeks ago and there's more to supplying clean air than just sticking a filter in and leaving it.

 

[Dark Warrior]

I can see big q's at the fill stations i agree about the safty course though.

In your case Team of 5 U18s and one parent
Game Day
Get set up fill packs etc then all five go to air up with parent
Parent fills one at a time, each player goes to chrono
Then back to air fill 3 players take empty pots from other two player and leaves their markers with them and the adult to fill
3 players fill pots and wait for markers to come back
All get ready for next game
At end of next game 3 go to pot up and 2 + Adult go to air fill

How's that for you

 

[chrizwheatley]

Cant be chewed to read all the post on this tread as i have already made my opinion very clear on other threads so seems pointless... I fill about 500 bottles a week if not more for punters (probs close to 1000 times in honesty but never mind) after bing given extensive air fill lessons etc i still have to do a air fill COMPULSARY PASS, i am far from an expert on hpa but done it many man y many many times and yet i still totally agree with me aving a pass, its kinda like saying.. "yeh i can drive and have done since xyz but never had a liceanse" 100000000000000000% agree this shud be compusary and even 'free air on site" be changed to if you dont have a air pass its a £1 charge for a trained person to fill it for you (free for under 18's) so it incorages people to actuly take the quick air fill tutorial (the guys who diliver this will not be.. lets tell ya granny how to suck eggs kinda stuff, they are there to tell you whe rules and the real facts).

I honeslty cant belive ANYONE is apposed to this but if they are .... you a poor excuse for a paintballer its as easy as that!!

 

[Chrome Zombie]

I agree fully. Anyone wishing to be involved regarding maintaining equipment should have a basic lesson, even if it's a safety booklet.

 

[Gassy]

It was run at the YPC walkon on sunday and took 20 mins at the start of the day and then a quick demonstration on how to safely fill a bottle.


That was it,40ish people now have a 12 month airpass that will allow them to fill at sites requiring this training for self fill purposes.

Quick,free and painless.

 

[Skeet]

Great idea if it can be implemented I would attend one at every event I went to.

Do we think much of the idea of filling tanks inside small blast boxes?

Turn up at the station, connect up, put bottle safely in blast box, fill, wait, fill, wait, remove bottle?

Even if the blast box is big enough for a whole marker and bottle to fit in?

Sorry if I've thread jacked but any safety ideas must be good and lets face it we've all seen people crouched over bottles or bottles pointed up in the air.

Just an idea

I posted that idea when the bottle came off the reg in the USA, when the woman was killed. It wasn't due to oil or bottle failure, someone unscrewed the bottle from the reg, but bottle failure cam up, and I suggested the gun be in a box, facing away from the players, so that when filled, if there was a problem, it was contained and directed away from people.

I also posted a particularly good idea regarding marker registration/certification which I imagine someone will bring up one day after something serious happens.

 

[HKkiller]

It was run at the YPC walkon on sunday and took 20 mins at the start of the day and then a quick demonstration on how to safely fill a bottle.


That was it,40ish people now have a 12 month airpass that will allow them to fill at sites requiring this training for self fill purposes.

Quick,free and painless.

Yes i did the air course last year at the genesis event 17 years in the game and it goes to show what you think you know! what a eye opener it was good on ypc and there staff. Paul

 

[Biscuit]

if you want to take a course i think if you go to www.nationalpaintballclub.co.uk you will find a list of venues that do the course i know most of them are recball sites but doesn,t this show how far behind tournie players are on safety .so for 20 minutes of your time go along to one of these sites and learn something,because at the end of the day it,s all our safety so just do it

 

[Zorg]

Yeah, HPAC did air a bit differently at the UK Masters this time. They had a big disclaimer sign saying everyone is responsible for their own equipment. Some signs on the filling table about not using oil in bottles and leaflets about good bottle care, they checked all the bottles as people went up in the morning and gave people stickers / informed them on their max fill. Plus the filling stations seemed to slower than last time.

Seems like everyone is taking it a bit more seriously now, they still let under 18 kids fill up their own bottles. I think that is more down to teams / parents to enforce though.

 

[Sabot]

I think the uk masters did it better this time, and good to see them checking bottles Well done HPAC