the thing with that though is, even a hunderd years ago people paid to watch football.
paintball gets watched by other paintball players
paintball gets watched by other paintball players
A Wind of Change
- Thread starter Robbo
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from the beginning, football was not pay for watch... it was free to watch, as is lower league football today.
it evolved over time, as did every sport
lower league football isn't free.
take a local team newcaslte town they charge £6 and get around 300 poeple there.
the thing i'm trying to say is paintball doesn't get out side people watching it.
ask a non playing member of the public what paintball is and they'll say, running around the woods shotting balls of paint that hurt
take a local team newcaslte town they charge £6 and get around 300 poeple there.
the thing i'm trying to say is paintball doesn't get out side people watching it.
ask a non playing member of the public what paintball is and they'll say, running around the woods shotting balls of paint that hurt
stokecity_m, that is why "awareness" needs to be raised. people aren't going to one day say, "hey, lets go to this masters thing, it'll be fun". you put a tournament in a theme park (not in the car park), people will walk past and think "that looks cool, whats that", this may lead to new players or at least show people the other side of paintball, raising awareness. i know that a tournament in a theme park will not be for a while, nor will people paying on mass to watch, but these are steps to build up to.
at a theme park, most poeple will have a quick look and then go off to do what they paid for, go on the rides.
i think it would be better if pople in the theme park could have a cheap game for themselves, as playing paintball is a hell of alot better than watching
i think it would be better if pople in the theme park could have a cheap game for themselves, as playing paintball is a hell of alot better than watching
yeah they may only stay for a minute but thats a minute they would not have spent if it had not been there. a minutes all you need for someone to get home and think, what was that, I'll have a look on the internet.
although giving people a go would be nice, it would probably be very hard to do, getting people in and out of kit, filling in wavers, giving safety talks, all for a round of paintball. people would associate tourny ball with queuing and far to much time wasted talking. to really get an idea a day would be best. maybe people handing out flyers saying come to X venue for a speedball day, then people would see sup air and be offered the chance to play as well, that could do something
although giving people a go would be nice, it would probably be very hard to do, getting people in and out of kit, filling in wavers, giving safety talks, all for a round of paintball. people would associate tourny ball with queuing and far to much time wasted talking. to really get an idea a day would be best. maybe people handing out flyers saying come to X venue for a speedball day, then people would see sup air and be offered the chance to play as well, that could do something
cough cough - i think he was hinting at something here - we have gone completely away from the subject in question
So we're saying that the larger companies in paintball might move away from sponsorship of tournament teams and everyone will have to pay their own way?
Great. Hopefully that'll get rid of all the punk kids in the game and leave it to the grown ups. Yeah, you might be fitter and faster, but my ISA is bigger than yours, so ner.
I have a nasty feeling that all the takeovers/buyouts will reduce innovation and the quality of products. Look at the Ion - yeah it's cheap, but it's also crap until you throw a bucketload of upgrades at it. Big companies with fistfulls of patents tend to stifle improvements to products - sales of the Pulse stopped because it 'resembles' another loader?
I've never believed that televising paintball will work - lets face it, most full games are boring to watch, 99% boredom with 1% action. 'Best of' montages with decent soundtracks are entertaining and could run on a loop alongside extreme snowboarding vids in bars, but you'll never get a proper audience like footie has. If I can't be arsed to watch matches, why on earth would the majority of the population, who have no interest in the game?
As long as there are people who want to play, the game will continue - I'm quite happy for it to return to the fairly low-key pastime that it used to be in the early 90s, even if that does shatter the tv-gangsta-dreams of a thousand pimply faced oiks.
Great. Hopefully that'll get rid of all the punk kids in the game and leave it to the grown ups. Yeah, you might be fitter and faster, but my ISA is bigger than yours, so ner.
I have a nasty feeling that all the takeovers/buyouts will reduce innovation and the quality of products. Look at the Ion - yeah it's cheap, but it's also crap until you throw a bucketload of upgrades at it. Big companies with fistfulls of patents tend to stifle improvements to products - sales of the Pulse stopped because it 'resembles' another loader?
I've never believed that televising paintball will work - lets face it, most full games are boring to watch, 99% boredom with 1% action. 'Best of' montages with decent soundtracks are entertaining and could run on a loop alongside extreme snowboarding vids in bars, but you'll never get a proper audience like footie has. If I can't be arsed to watch matches, why on earth would the majority of the population, who have no interest in the game?
As long as there are people who want to play, the game will continue - I'm quite happy for it to return to the fairly low-key pastime that it used to be in the early 90s, even if that does shatter the tv-gangsta-dreams of a thousand pimply faced oiks.
The Millennium has declining turnout. There used to be 200 odd teams and it was oversubscribed look at it now.... And the quality of Paintball hasn't got that much better, so there's been no survival of the fittest cum natural selection thingy going on..... All 900 of you UK tournament ballers can do all the positive thinking and Jedi mind tricking you want, ain't gonna change the simple fact that to make Euro Tournament Ball viable would take a biblical event.
The only way to make Euro Tournament viable and comparible with the U.S. is for short term pain and price players back into Rec / Customer ball. I don't think it will be easy, but you move European Paintball more into line with the US and how that market works. If you want to play Tournament, seriously; you have to get good and train, train, train. You'd be at NQ or D7 week in and out giving it your all. The rest? either back to the sites ot give up. The Companies then need to invest in site / customer ball, and increase the conversion rate to occasional player, but one still happy to buy some kit and play several times a year. If you give people a good entertainment experience at the site level, they'll come back and bring their friends. Sumo89, suggests that punters worry about the amount of bullets they shoot and we need to make paint uber cheap is wrong. We need to give customers a great day out so they don't think they're shooting alot or equating that too cost. If they had an absolutely blinding day out but it cost em a ton because they shot 800 balls, their not going to remember the cost of Paint, but the fact they had a full days entertainment for the same price as 90 mins go-karting, an evening at the dogs whatever. If the industry goes down this route, their onto a winner. Tournament will grow again, but in a far more disciplined fashion and you never know we might actually create some gracious, grateful and gifted players......or not.