10yo boy possibly blinded in one eye by pball

[twinkle toes]

there is a simple answer to that sinner

You make it possible for them to join the UKPSF at point of sale. As long as they can produce a valid photo ID with proof of name and address. The shop can have the UKPSF application form there , take the money ( £5 I think ) and forward the whole thing , along with the marker details to the UKPSF. Simple.

The only problem is what age do you sell to ( minimum ) ?

You can go on most sites , and play , from 12 years old ( some can do lower ). I know we have tourny players at that age , but they have been 'brought up with the right knowledge'. Do you sell to any kid over 12? or do you make it a cut off at 16 , stopping knew younger ballers starting?
I suppose you could make it possible , if they had a parent and an existing member with them to be a guarantor. Its a tough call though. .

As for the industry loosing valuble custom. I dont think they will lose that much , and if the people they lose would not join the UKPSF and be registered , what have they got to hide? They might be the kind of people we should lose!!

Just my opinion , but I do think its time for registration. Do it our way first , rather than get it imposed on us. It looks better on us and our sport if we get off our arses and make good rules to prevent accidents.

If anyone is going to get this thing off the ground , and they need any help , Just ask , and if I can help , I will in any way I can.

 

[Rich S]

16 is probably the best age, this is when kids have the option of leaving school and therefore are supposedly meant to be young adults. ukpsf retailing through stores is a great idea, but what about online sales, add in a section where the UKPSF number has to be added and it is compared to a list automatically, what if that list is not updated. what if someone joins the UKPSF when visiting smartparts, they check the id and set up the PSF account, but the update to the PSF may be instant but then the PSF then have to update al the other stores, as most people i know who buy equipment online seem to use various shops. airsys from air america, clothing from smartparts and pots etc from planet, if the update is not done then that order will not be done.
also what about imports?


hotpoint,
if you want online registration on the UKPSF website mat could probably do it but you need a secure site connection

 

[Philip]

I would make it 17, this is the same as air gun laws.....

Also, i dont think you'd need the psf number for imports because i honestly dont think people are gonna import a marker just to mess about with. But i know what up mean

 

[SPARKLIE CHICK]

Hi all

This is terrible!

I very much dout it was a super splatt or pistol splatt it virtually imposssible to damage any one with one of those. (Hence me letting the boys light my bum up with them)

The super splatts will fire maxium of 105 fps, the pistol splatts 65 to 75 fps. There is a huge diffrence between one of those and a standard marker even if you turn them down to 200fps.

I would thoughly encorage registration of all marker and have words with all my juniors parents if they are making buy the kids gun noises.

I think parents must be present for under 18 sorry but some of them are so thoughtless.

I know how about a paintball awarness course run by UKPSF sites for junior ie under 18 ballers!

They would have to pass before they can purchase a gun pretty much like a driving test let face it just as dangerous.

A once a month thing were they learn about goggles, co2 saftey, guns and all aspects of paintball saftey for them selfs and others.

Then once they pass they get cert to say they can purchase a gun!

I know long winded but will stop all this **** I would gladly run these things

We teach all this at accademy it's frightening how many new player don't "fit" their gogles just shove em on and off they slip.

So come on feed back please.

This needs to be niped in the bud now we need to be seen to be doing something!

sparklie trying to do her bit keeping it safe

 

[twinkle toes]

what about online sales, add in a section where the UKPSF number has to be added and it is compared to a list automatically, what if that list is not updated. what if someone joins the UKPSF when visiting smartparts, they check the id and set up the PSF account, but the update to the PSF may be instant but then the PSF then have to update al the other stores

Yes true , BUT , we are only trying to stop the reckless use of MARKERS here , not goggles , air systems etc. They can buy as many sets of goggles / camos / pots / air systems as they like. Without the marker , none of it is any good to them.
I know you argue that an air system or Co2 bottle is dangerous too , but they cant get that filled just anywhere , but if you thought it necesarry , you could register these too ( It would make chasing out of date bottles easier , 'cus you know who has it , and where they live ).

As for those people who want to buy one marker at shop A , and join UKPSF there. Then buy another marker at shop B the same day. ( very strange anyway , how many new players buy 2 markers for themselves the same day? ) But just say this was going to occur. When you register with the shop A , you get a membership number , this is sent to UKPSF straight away. If the new member wants to buy at shop B , they just have to ring UKPSF and confirm membership number.

Or you just tell them , 'you'll have to wait 5 working days for the membership to be registered'. Existing ballers should be able to sort themselves out and join in plenty of time , and if they can't , well , tough!! They should be members anyway. .

What do you think?

 

[FAMINE]

Ok, lets do the gun registar thing,
Lets adopt the air gun law and make it 17.

UKPSF membership would be fine to hold database etc.

Then let US campaign to ban these crappy kids markers, It only does harm to our sport and makes a mokery of our safety procedures.

If we are seen to be active in this then we will stand a better chance.

Oh and just a quick one, Can ukpsf take credit cards?
An online membership area would be very handy and encourage players to sign up as it is quick and instant, cheques are a little old hat these days (I dont even have one)

 

[Tortoise-Licker]

Okay I seemed to have got the ball rolling with the id system.(this time around) So how about getting the big guys included, namely Smart-parts,Eclipse e.t.c. If the media get wind that paintball markers can be dangerous in the wrong hands. And then some M.p. decides that hell I can get a few votes here if I jump on the bandwagon, the next thing we will see is a ban on owning a marker.
Now tell me how that will affect their trade??
We need to impliment a system soon and before it is inforced on us by the Law.
How about the big guns getting their heads together and sponsering this by buying whoever is going to organise this, one of them snazzy programs and photo I.d. card makers. That way no photo I.d. no marker. And you say that this would put people off owning a marker, since when. If you want a car you take lessons you sit a test and then you have an exam, why because they are dangerous in the wrong hands.
Do you really want to see your marker being thrown into a big weapons amnesty bin in order to get cut up???
No... I didn't think so.

 

[Philip]

I have already started work a gun registration system where each use can log in to his/her area...and if it should happen, they can report the gun stolen...so anyone who looks into buying a gun can go online and check to see if the real owner is selling it and to see if its not stolen...all they have to do is sign up and submit some info......

I suppose i could ty and implement this next thing into it....

 

[Flash-Bugout]

Originally posted by Tortoise-Licker
Okay I seemed to have got the ball rolling with the id system.

cough_threadfromaprilwithapostImade_cough.

If anyone on here wants next weeks lottery numbers......

Come on then people, lets get this rolling - I could have a "marker registration" website set up by this time tomorrow, but that's not going to control anything, or help with anything other than tracing the owners of stolen markers.

I KNOW YOU INDUSTRY PEOPLE READ THESE BOARDS - GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDES AND GET INVOLVED, BEFORE PAINTBALL IS BANNED AND YOU GO OUT OF BUSINESS!


Right, I'll put me soapbox away, and watch the industry bods blind us with inactivity.

 

[Tortoise-Licker]

One thing good about the players introducing their own i.d. system is that maybe the sport england commision will take us more seriously