Reffing: What are you going to do about it?

[spangley_special]

Actually you can.

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-polishing-a-turd.html




But seriously now, Im still in for a reffing course, But I also think a compiled online list of rules with explainations could help, this is going back to people not knowing the rules.

Hell one of the biggest people still ask, whats a 1 for 1 or a 2 or 1?

Its fine if youve been in paintball for a while, anyone else wants to find out, it aint out there on the web to find (according to a quick google search)

I think you'll find (in the currently published millennium rule book) there is no such penalty as a 2-for-1 only 1for1's and 3for1's

Yet despite this you see 2for1's regulaly dished out at millennium events.

Really shouldn't we have an up to date rule book, it's hard to know the rules when the local major series seems to refuse to write them down

 

[Robbo]

robbo how can certain players have respect for the rule book if they don,t understand it.
what i mean is the newbie teams don,t have a clue what half the rules actually stand for.
so would it be a good idea if one or a few top refs like jono could reply on here to direct questions on the specific rules of certain tournies,thus maybe educating players to the finer points of the rules.
this may inturn prevent some of the abuse towards refs as the players may understand why he was pulled

Biscuit, I was highlighting the lack of priority mate, I wasn't being literal.

Of course, players need to know the rule-book but I'm damned sure all the shock players knew the rules at the Fed cup but they don't know who, or what to respect .... get my point now?

 

[SAMUEL.D.RYAN]

Most of the basic rules are fairly common sensical once you've been around a bit, but parts of certain *ahem* documents don't even read properly or make sense. Proof reading is not that hard and I think the rules are a starting point that needs to be sorted before we tackle the main issue.

 

[Robbo]

If we take a time out here and think about why this whole subject of reffing has been bought to the fore ..... at the Fed cup, shockwave behaved appallingly ...this had nothing to do with their players being unaware of any rules, and everything to do with those self-same players being unable to control themselves against a backdrop of zero respect for the refs ..... the finer points of the rules are not what causes problems like these, players do, or rather ingrates do.

I readily concede, the rules do have to be reconciled and made consistent but let's not lose sight of what's really important here otherwise we disappear up our own ass amid a mass of technicalities, the vast majority of which are gonna prove academic in the practical sense.

 

[SAMUEL.D.RYAN]

Definitely, and I agree with that but with any sport, if there's an inadequacy then you can be sure someone will pick up on it and exploit the error. I just think it's the bedrock that gives a ref squad ultimate control.

 

[Robbo]

Definitely, and I agree with that but with any sport, if there's an inadequacy then you can be sure someone will pick up on it and exploit the error. I just think it's the bedrock that gives a ref squad ultimate control.

Fine in theory but I'm afraid entirely unachievable in practice.

 

[SAMUEL.D.RYAN]

Fine in theory but I'm afraid entirely unachievable in practice.

? What? Other sports manage... it may never be perfect but it can be much better than it is at the moment. At the moment the only person who has no problem understanding everything in the rule book is the person that wrote it!

 

[Robbo]

? What? Other sports manage... it may never be perfect but it can be much better than it is at the moment. At the moment the only person who has no problem understanding everything in the rule book is the person that wrote it!

I think we are talking cross purposes here, I am referring to ALL players being comprehensively aware of ALL the rules.
I think you are maybe referring to the rule book itself being made consistent which of course, I agree with.

 

[SAMUEL.D.RYAN]

I think we are talking cross purposes here, I am referring to ALL players being comprehensively aware of ALL the rules.
I think you are maybe referring to the rule book itself being made consistent which of course, I agree with.

I'm talking about the end result irrelevant of the purposes of each stage. Consistent rules will be easier to manage for your average team, but for example some of the millennium rules will seem a little ridiculous and unnecessary for a KOTH team. My point earlier was that the current rulebook for one particular league was poorly written, hence my point about the basis for a decent ref squad.
The idea of a consistent rulebook is a different issue.

 

[Robbo]

I'm talking about the end result irrelevant of the purposes of each stage. Consistent rules will be easier to manage for your average team, but for example some of the millennium rules will seem a little ridiculous and unnecessary for a KOTH team. My point earlier was that the current rulebook for one particular league was poorly written, hence my point about the basis for a decent ref squad.
The idea of a consistent rulebook is a different issue.

....which wasn't what I was referring to.