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Markie C

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You might wanna look into that a little more mate. PP and NPPL were pretty much one and the same thing, if one doesn't make money, neither does the other. And the people taking over are only doing the events that were succesful. But that's another story anyway, so let's ignore that in this thread.
I have, maybe i am wrong but PP didn't own the nppl they just promoted it didn't they? (we are taking about pure promotions aren't we?)


But yeah lets ignore it.
 

Buddha 3

Hamfist McPunchalot
1) I think we do need some line of communication with the ms so as players we know that they are taking it on board, i still have a problem with how they were so flippant about malaga with ending the statement with some thing like ""well if you can get the weather to change then do so" or some thing along them lines,

2) As storngle has pointed out it is a business, but dont you think it is good practice to show some respect to your customers by making it a better business?
1) You have a very good line of communication with the MS: Your feet and your wallet. :)

2) Absolutely true, but the problem is that in the current climate, it is impossible to put on the sort of events as the Toulouse of yesteryear. The money just ain't there, there are fewer teams, fewer vendors, so less money for the promoters. And less money to fluff up an event. I imagine that there is only money to run a basic event, just games, nothing more.
Shame really, as I did love those all singing, all dancing events. But we have to face economic realities.
 

Andy Steele

P8ntball isn't a sport
Sep 2, 2005
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Im not sure what to make of this, I meant of it as if everyone packs in at the first thing they don't like then we wont get very far.
we will see what turkey brings. im about 80% sure that people dont like this idea, so i wait in anticipation to see the turn out of this event. i think it will be a lesson learned quite quick if people act on what they say
 

Markie C

Carlos Spicy Weiner
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1) You have a very good line of communication with the MS: Your feet and your wallet. :)

2) Absolutely true, but the problem is that in the current climate, it is impossible to put on the sort of events as the Toulouse of yesteryear. The money just ain't there, there are fewer teams, fewer vendors, so less money for the promoters. And less money to fluff up an event. I imagine that there is only money to run a basic event, just games, nothing more.
Shame really, as I did love those all singing, all dancing events. But we have to face economic realities.
1) Its easy to say that when you dont play (that wasn't a sly dig) but for teams and players to play other good teams its the only place to do so, if i won the lotto then i could just start my own. and then people could vote with there feet

2) yeah but putting up prices and doing an event when they know that they turn out is going to be a a disgrace (ie turkey) and trying to sweeten the deal by offering a bigger prize is a bit of a joke.
 

pablo666

Active Member
Me, when I paid for ice creams, one 3/4 full cup of tea and a hot dog ....... my wallet was raped unceremoniously ....... I would think from what those bastids took from the food I purchased enabled the Millennium guys to pay the wages of 9 refs for a day ......
I have to agree, i was there Saturday and Sunday. On the Saturday purchased a bottle of water from a vendor for £1.50. Thought well can't grumble, it's not breaking the bank i guess. Go back Sunday to the SAME vendor for the SAME bottle of water and i'm asked to fork out £2.50. Now i don't know if i'm the only one who had a feeling the lack of pricing on items led to a "sell at vendors discretion" type of thing, but i had a few things to say to this vendor which he wasn't happy about. I "persuaded" him that £1.50 was the correct price but my mate was also charged £2.00 for another bottle of water and guess what, it was the SAME one ;). It is not up to the Millenium staff to dictate exact prices, but as suggested before something should be done, no pricing meant the vendor charged you on how you looked..
I watched a lot of the balling on all the fields over the two days and didn't notice much that was severely bad reffing, but there were definately a few issues that should be addressed in the reffing on the M5 and Div fields. Not all the refs were bad, but the odd call that was made i know i wasn't the only one in the crowd feeling it was completely the wrong decision.
I felt the venue was not that bad to be honest and the event was well signposted etc. making it easy to get there. Overall i had a good time to be honest, after all it's balling isn't it?

CK
 

Buddha 3

Hamfist McPunchalot
Jay, it may be recurring but that's no excuse mate and it seems we live in the forlorn hope that the Millennium guys might finally get it right because the Millennium know damned well people are still gonna turn up without having a nice little hamper of pre-prepared food.

It's ludicrous to consistently allow thieving bastid rip off merchants purely on the basis the customers should expect nothing else and consequently bring their own food ........ there has to be a desire to do better for the Millennium in this area and not just rely on people's default reaction just because it's been consistently cr@p before.

And let's face it Jay, if people just wander in to see the event and what's going on, it's hardly a nice welcome when 30 quid goes on the missing list when giving the family a burger dinner and drink ......


And where do we draw the line Jay, if next time they wanna charge 10 quid for a cup of tea and 12 quid for a coke?
There HAS to be a responsibility from event promoters to make sure their customers are not ripped off ... it makes no sense to divorce yerself from it, none at all mate.
The thing is that I fully agree that all food and drinks were hideously overpriced. I just don't put the blame on the MS, I don't see it as their responsibility, after all, they don't tell the other vendors at what prices to sell their paint.
Though it might be a good plan if they had food sellers from different companies, so that perhaps the competition could drive prices down. I noticed that most, if not all people selling foor were from one and the same organisation. Now they had a sort of monopoly, as there was no other place to get food within walking distance. In that sense perhaps you could put some of the blame on the MS.

Anyhow, one thing for which I think the people running this little shindig should be publicly humiliated, is the toilets... I'd bring it up, but I think I might throw up.
 

Buddha 3

Hamfist McPunchalot
1) Its easy to say that when you dont play (that wasn't a sly dig) but for teams and players to play other good teams its the only place to do so, if i won the lotto then i could just start my own. and then people could vote with there feet

2) yeah but putting up prices and doing an event when they know that they turn out is going to be a a disgrace (ie turkey) and trying to sweeten the deal by offering a bigger prize is a bit of a joke.
Don't worry, didn't take it as a dig. But to answer your point, why do you think I don't play anymore? I voted with my feet and wallet. I understand there is no real alternative at the mo, but I'm pretty sure that if the MS were to keel over and die, there would be something else in its place real soon. After all, there have been things happening in the east and I'm sure there are others who'd be willing to take the leap if the MS were out of the equation.

As for point 2, believe me, I'm not sticking up for the MS. I see loads of amateurish things happening that I think are ridiculous and again, that's one of the reasons I don't play.
I just felt that some of the stuff being thrown at the MS in this thread was undeserved and I would rather see people throw the stuff that the MS is accountable for. That way it would hurt more. I bet it would suck to have one of those disgusting porta-loos thrown on you for example. :D
 

head_-_shot

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it is your responsibility to eat not the Millenniums to supply an event right next to a supermarket!
Yes, but if millennium wanted a decent event and wanted to please their customers, this sort of stuff would be in their interests.
 

Impulse raider

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Jun 4, 2008
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Well i have to say i enjoyed this event.

This was Team Rampages first Major event entered, we entered more for the experiance than anything else.

We played M5 and managed 1 draw and 2 wins on the first day, went into group B on the second day and managed to win 4 out of 5, this then put us into the Final play off's.

Playing Ratz & JCS Academy..

Played JCS First and managed a win with a 3ed.
Played Ratz and got our asses handed to us on a plate, long story and only time of all the event when we felt let down by the marshalling.

All three teams in the group won one each and final ended as follows

1st Ratz
2nd JCS
3rd Rampage.

So as you can guess for a team that only started 2009 in the NSPL Div4, i am feeling chuffed to bits...

Ohhh and the bonus was three UK teams :D..

What did i feel was the let down..

Not enough trade stands, Over priced Food <-- But this was an option you could avoid if you wanted to pop to the local shops.

Being stuck on the M25 and taking 7hrs to finally get there :(, damn inconsiderate Truck Drivers Crashing between Junction 23-25.

Finally the Fact Dye Didn't have an NT Behind the counter to hand out to be held, i mean come on guess have a little faith in ballers its not like you can't have someone watch over a potential buyer that wants to possibly buy one.

On the brighter note planet did let me walk around with the SL94 so i could get the feel for my new arriving shortly toy..

Roll on 2010 ...