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Bambulus

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There was a thread not so long ago about the future of the sport, eg paint can only shoot so straight, markers can only shoot so fast, and things looked pretty grim from what I remember. Companies SHOULD be trying to be innovative, just look at smart parts, ok they sue anyone and anything they can (ok slight exageration), but they did some fantastic things for the marker industry none the less.


In my eyes if your not being innovative and helping the technologies move along, you should f*** off so those companies who are trying to be innovative can get continued revenue to do so.


Now PE copied the intimidator in the form of the ego, you can't deny it, an ego is just a timmy with a QEV, a mod which was being done by some timmy owners before PE came along. And one which has been a questionable change. They then mass marketted it and became "the thing to have".


But what have they done that is new? What have they brought to the table that no other manufacturer has?
In terms of innovations, we haven't really seen anything that could improve the sport as a whole. In my opinion, looking at the technologies behind marker manufacture won't hold any keys to a sport-wide revolution, it'll just breed the next generation of "isn't my gun special" consumers. Sure, innovation is nice, but I think making the sport more affordable and accessable is a much more fundamental goal than producing, say, a marker without a macroline.

Like I've said, innovation doesn't equal success. What PE have done is produce workhorse reliability on a tournament grade marker. You get new guys getting into it asking advice on what markers to get, you either point them in the direction of the cheaper budget markers (slg, ION), or second hand ego's/eteks. They still keep up. They're simple, functional, and they've stood the test of time.

Yes, PE use already existing technologies, but they use it to produce quality markers. Just because they're not at the forefront of research doesn't mean they're not a viable company producing viable products.

And besides. There will always be companies that come out with the next big innovation. I seem to remember there being an ego7, ego8 and ego9 but we still have the wonders of rechargable, macroline-less, usb fitted gats. Don't fret too much.
 

Bon

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Not the new designed which i was talking about, the old one which is like 5 foot tall however does not look like a spikey ego. so if the impulse was out before the ego im right then and you are wrong because my whole argument was eclipse get ideas from everyone and put them together and make something intese which they have done

check the sig for the reason why im right and put because before it

Oh dear... im just going to stop replying to you untill you get a clue about what your talking about.
 

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i have a clue what im talking about, your the one rammbling on about o eclipse copied bob long....... o no they "copied" smart parts.... erm o yeah what have they done for paintball..... ye timmys are we better

The whole thing your saying and ive said and will say it again its nothing but crap, ive backed up my points but all you have done is said how bad eclipse are and how they have apparently copied companys

nothing else really to say is there now bon
 

Bon

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In terms of innovations, we haven't really seen anything that could improve the sport as a whole. In my opinion, looking at the technologies behind marker manufacture won't hold any keys to a sport-wide revolution, it'll just breed the next generation of "isn't my gun special" consumers. Sure, innovation is nice, but I think making the sport more affordable and accessable is a much more fundamental goal than producing, say, a marker without a macroline.

Like I've said, innovation doesn't equal success. What PE have done is produce workhorse reliability on a tournament grade marker. You get new guys getting into it asking advice on what markers to get, you either point them in the direction of the cheaper budget markers (slg, ION), or second hand ego's/eteks. They still keep up. They're simple, functional, and they've stood the test of time.

Yes, PE use already existing technologies, but they use it to produce quality markers. Just because they're not at the forefront of research doesn't mean they're not a viable company producing viable products.

And besides. There will always be companies that come out with the next big innovation. I seem to remember there being an ego7, ego8 and ego9 but we still have the wonders of rechargable, macroline-less, usb fitted gats. Don't fret too much.

Innovation stops a market from drying up or dying. If you want to go back to the original topic, I was pointing out yet again PE have produced a marker which will be completely unexciting.

Take the Victory for instance, the efficiency of the engine in that however and the easy removal was something to get very excited about.
 

Bon

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i have a clue what im talking about, your the one rammbling on about o eclipse copied bob long....... o no they "copied" smart parts.... erm o yeah what have they done for paintball..... ye timmys are we better

The whole thing your saying and ive said and will say it again its nothing but crap, ive backed up my points but all you have done is said how bad eclipse are and how they have apparently copied companys

nothing else really to say is there now bon

So wish to retract your previous statement about the impulse then?

And backed what points up? In none of your posts have you backed anything up, you posted a link to youtube of a bent DM frame, gratz, hell I could show you one of a Marq with a bent frame, if you use enough force any frame will deform.
 

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So wish to retract your previous statement about the impulse then?

And backed what points up? In none of your posts have you backed anything up, you posted a link to youtube of a bent DM frame, gratz, hell I could show you one of a Marq with a bent frame, if you use enough force any frame will deform.
Thought you said you were gunna stop replying
 

Bambulus

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Innovation stops a market from drying up or dying. If you want to go back to the original topic, I was pointing out yet again PE have produced a marker which will be completely unexciting.

Take the Victory for instance, the efficiency of the engine in that however and the easy removal was something to get very excited about.
I'm not saying that innovation is a bad thing, mate. It's good, I get it, but Planet's next marker is hardly going to do any hinderance to innovation, that's my point. They're a business keeping up in a competative market, and they're doing that well.

The Marq is a nice marker. I was following the LiPS thread, it tickled me that the board stumped them a bit.
:p
 

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Please don't try to be smart, your obviously one of these kiddies who buys whatever is marketted as the best and follows the masses, so it won't work.

The fundamental ego design was copied from intimidators.
The geo, dm's / marq.
Now, regardable markers, from Angel.
Macroless, Luxe or BL, depends how you wan't to look at it, the Luxe did it first, but it was a very poor marker.


So please tell me, what have PE done at all that been innovative for paintball apart from copy the work of other companies?

Looks like brainwash advertising works :rolleyes:
please get facts right bon

ego evolved from bushy/impulse
geo evolved from mag/freestyle/shocker/matrix
rechargeable yes angels
macroless, u forget mini.

planet eclipse may not always come up with the original concept, but they do enhance the designs and make awesome guns. at least they dont break all the time:eek:

the innovations that planet excel in, you wouldn't even appreciate, but jack wood is a genius, he see's issues with items you don't even see, have you looked at the other parts of the ego9 and geo, especially the noid area?

can you honestly say a timmy isnt just a rip off of another marker.
 

Bon

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Thought you said you were gunna stop replying
Not going to answer the question?


ego evolved from bushy/impulse
geo evolved from mag/freestyle/shocker/matrix
rechargeable yes angels
macroless, u forget mini.
Pretty sure the ego did evolve from the timmy, something to do with the hammer / rammer design difference between impulses and timmies. Either way the timmy and impulse are pretty similar.


Geo, didnt really follow it, was yet again just "another gun" from PE sporting, nothing interesting.
 

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round the town funky kwow
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Pretty sure the ego did evolve from the timmy, something to do with the hammer / rammer design difference between impulses and timmies. Either way the timmy and impulse are pretty similar.


Geo, didnt really follow it, was yet again just "another gun" from PE sporting, nothing interesting.

Pretty sure, mate sort it out, how many times do you want to change your tone.

One word for your attempts and this is... wait for it ..... ROFLCOPTER,
 
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