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LEts say I am going for pure strength( not necessarily muscle bulk just strength) then, with limited side effects?, I have herd of know nothing teens getting into "stacking" and messing their body up perminently, can you explain what that means? :confused:




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SecretSquirrel83

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I have herd of know nothing teens getting into "stacking" and messing their body up perminently, can you explain what that means? :confused:


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Normally kids who think more is better and do a massive combination (or stack) or substances that are too strong and in amounts that are too large. Plus the fact they're normally still teenagers so more than likely the growth plates on their bones form too quick/early and stunt bone development.

Best thing I can say is visit places like muscletalk.co.uk and read, read, read, read- assuming you plan on 'using' this information.

PJ
 

Buddha 3

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you seem to know an awful lot about drugs buddha....:eek: :eek:
Well, I am Dutch....:) ;)

Stacking, by the way, could also indicate the use of stackers, which are fat burners. Fat is the body's way of storing excess energy, so burning fat releases vast amounts of energy.
The problem with stackers is that they contain ephedra, which is illegal in most countries since only recently. Ephedra can be dangerous to the heart as it raises the heartrate and therefore increases the chance of an infarct.
Another side effect is that once you start eating away your fat reserves, all kinds of nastiness happen, because fat is also where your body stores much of the poisons it can't get rid of. If you start burning fat, many of these poisons are once again released into your bloodstream. But that's just the worst case scenario.

In reality the effects of taking stackers sensibly are minimal. Don't take them daily. Use them on the day of a tournament, because they WILL give you an extra boost of energy during the day. Or if you are going to be a body builder, use them during the build up to an event, where you want to be as dry as possible (no fat).
If, and it's a big if, paintball will ever become a true sport and will have regular checks on doping, DON'T use ephedra/stackers...
 

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Different steriods do different things on different people as it effects them in different ways. As Robbo said research your steriods, like which countries make what. My friend did this and found out the steriods he was about to buy were for horses.

Stacking is a mixture of steriods to gain the overall effects you require. If using steriods on a regular basis you build dosages up and drop them down before coming off. You have periods of rest in between the usuage which is handy to stop stretch marks etc and let your body recover from the abuse. It also means you don't loose the bulk as fast.

Mixing steriods is very very dangerous as not many people do the research required. If steriods were the answer to everything in body building we'd all know an arnie. But steriods will kill you or seriously damage you if you are stupid enough to use them with out researching them.

Diet, exercise , rest are the most important things for any athelete before he / she researches steriods.
 

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Mixing steriods is very very dangerous as not many people do the research required. If steriods were the answer to everything in body building we'd all know an arnie. But steriods will kill you or seriously damage you if you are stupid enough to use them with out researching them.
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Shad, sorry mate, I can't let his go, what you say here is just plain wrong mate.
Mixing roids isn't very dangerous at all, there is nothing intrinsically wrong in taking more than one, what's more important is the amount you take and the type you take.
Let me give you a rough handle on all this crap because that's what's needed when so much ignorance is flying around.
My bill for roids was something like 6 to 10 quid a week, hardly a king's ransom, I went from something like 13 stone to 16 and a half on those amounts.
Now a guy called Dorian Yates was Mr Olympia for something like 6 years running, basically this English guy was the governor, he was unbeatable in the bodybuilding tournamnet world.

His alleged roid intake was a grand a week, yeh, you got it, 50 grand a year's worth. The guy was injecting and swallowing more than a hundred times the amount I was.
The point here is, this guy took them for god knows how long, and amounts that dwarf the levels most people take and as far as i know, Dorian Yates is alive and well and looking good.
Now please, I know some people are gonna say, 'yeh, but what is gonna happen to him in the future'?
Well it's been something like 10 years ago he was winning titles and you'd think if roids were that bad, with the amounts he was taking, that something might have happened to him?
Well, it hasn't, he's as fit as a fiddle.


But smoking's ok is it?
Binge drinking is cool, is it?
But overeating is ok is it?

I am not for one second suggesting there are no side effects but at least let's get some perspective here.

Most things are ok in moderation, it's not for me to classify roids in that way for anybody else apart from me - you have to make your own mind up after some responsible research but there seems to be more knee jerk ignorance flying around than reasonable opinion ... hence my post.
 

Shadlad

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Robbo if you read mate i say it is very very dangerous if you don't do the reasearch if you do the research and check the stuff out you'll know the dosage etc. I use to know a lot of guys using roids and ones who like yourself researched the roids were ok. The others who banged all sorts of stuff into them selves weren't inc my mate and ex gym pal who dropped died warming up for a comp about 6 years ago.

Steriods i will say if mixed with out knowing what your doing or with out research will injure or kill.
 

Shadlad

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Talking off over eating i'm of for a kebab lol. I use to train with mega mass 10,000 which side effects were huge as i also use to do all the serious food intake as well .