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[john251282]

Now john251282 is a smart cookie and I respect what he says

That is going straight in my signature



As Robbo says this is a comlicated area and at the end of the day you have to take responsibilty for your own choices, i.e. how much you smoke, drink, takes drugs etc.

My personal view is that everyone is best off trying a really good workout regime before they jump onto any supplements or drugs. As this alone could give you the results you want. There is plenty of BS out there especially from supplement companies, i.e. My new product blows everything out of the water, You can grow muscle without protein shakes etc etc etc Its almost all BS. And without the proper scientific background it is very difficult to sort through what is fact and fiction.

 

[Buddha 3]

Right, time to sound the BS alert...

The ammount XTC deaths from pure xtc is a handfull. The deaths from steriod over doses a handful. Most xtc deaths have been un pure tablets, most steriod deaths are from abuse. Gaining masses of weight and straining your heart etc without giving your body time to rest etc.

I agree if you abuse drink, coffee and smokeit is deadly. But they are stopping you smoking in public etc for other peoples health. But if you took drink away and ciggies there would be a bootleg market for it.Like other drugs when it is illegalgod knows what you get !! In newcastle last year there was dodgy cheap vodka that was killing people.

But the drugs i meant were the likes of heroine etc

Mario and Pete already told you what's what, but I just can't let blatant BS and hypocrisy slide.

Most XTC deaths have been from the pure stuff. And if it's indeed only a handful, how come I buried three people last year alone over this? Or do I just happen to know that entire handful?

Take smoke and ciggies away, there will be a bootleg market...no sh!t!? You mean, kinda like what you have now for coke, heroine, meth and all that other stuff?
You talk about "other drugs like heroine" which should be illegal, because they are dangerous. Well guess what mate, alcohol and cigarettes kill more people directly and indirectly than any of the so called class A drugs. So they should be equally illegal or legal.

 

[Buddha 3]

I have know a lot of drug dealers and the likes and I guarantee you 99 percent of them aint got a clue what is in the drugs they sell. The cheapness of the likes of xtc is because it is not pure. Anyone who took xtc 15 years ago will tell you 8 of todays is around the same as one then.

All drugs run a risk, but the likes of streriods are less risk if you research them. I believe correct me if i'm wrong that some injections go into the muscles and some into the tissue instead. Oil based don't go direct into the muscle etc.

Holland is the country with the right views we ain't going to stop it so lets make sure it is safe. The guy sits in the corner and tests your xtc. if it is good you find out there and thenif crap you bin it !!

The only one without a clue is you mate. Dealers look for the best stuff they can get as they are well aware that their business is reliant on customer retention. A crackhead WILL know when you sold him 0,9 grammes instead of 1. And dealers know that the crackheads (and other users) will leave and or turn snitch if you rip them off. The only people selling the stuff with crap mixed in is dumbass people just trying to get in the game.

Yes I know a lot about this stuff and yes it's all from firsthand experience (not in Mario's way, but rather I would have been the one doing the selling). I wasn't always mister legality...

 

[Buddha 3]

One final thing on the whole drugs thing.
Fact is that more people die as a consequence of taking alcohol than from taking drugs. Same goes for cigarettes. So anybody that tells you that alcohol and ciggies should be legal where drugs are not should be on the bad side of a good ass kicking.
Either they should all be legal or they should all be illegal. Simple really, but welcome to the wonderful world of politics.

 

[Buddha 3]

You know, all this talk about using dope, reminds me of a funny "incident" last april.

My American football team had a game against a team in Paris, so off we went. Part of the rules in the EFAF (European Federation of American Football) is random checks on usage of substances that are outlawed by the Olympic Committee.
So after the game three players from each team were selected to pee in a cup.
Not much to worry about, as I know that only a few of the guys have used some things in the past. But strangely, cannabis related materials are also on the OC's list. Strange because smoking weed does not exactly make you run faster or think quicker.
The reason this was a potential problem is because, hey, we are the Amsterdam Crusaders. We are from Amsterdam. The home of the coffeeshop. So I know that a lot of the guys light one up from time to time. But, no harm done, we warned plenty of time beforehand, and were told that THC (the working stuff in weed) stays in your system for about two weeks. So over the course of several weeks the coaches kept hammering at us to not smoke anything. Not a problem.

Anyway, gameday comes, and we play the game. After the game, three of our guys get selected, and who do they select? The one guy that was on the roster, but did not play because of an injury AND who just happens to be one of those selected few who get to smoke weed for medicinal purposes... I mean, the guy wasn't even suited up for the game! He was walking on crutches!

Luckily he had a document stating that he was allowed to use it for medicinal purposes. We almost got blacklisted...