UK Team Info

[psycho]

uk killers

Thanks Pete, what you said means a lot..

It's definately a sad state of affairs when we are gonna have so few teams representin in Div one next year.. Hopefully Tigers will take it in their stride and bounce back up, and I think Stealers will have a good year next year. It's just a shame we have no new young hungry teams mixing it up in Div 1, and the way it looks at the moment I cant see that happening for at least a couple of years from now, as such a team now has to earn their spot in Div 1.. Times don't look good in Div 1.

As for us, gonna be an interesting year!! Mission: Get good at X-ball, quick!!

Huge thanks to everyone who supported Kellys at CC!! It makes a huge difference!!

 

[Syd (NSPL)]

Thanks Pete, what you said means a lot..

It's definately a sad state of affairs when we are gonna have so few teams representin in Div one next year.. Hopefully Tigers will take it in their stride and bounce back up, and I think Stealers will have a good year next year. It's just a shame we have no new young hungry teams mixing it up in Div 1, and the way it looks at the moment I cant see that happening for at least a couple of years from now, as such a team now has to earn their spot in Div 1.. Times don't look good in Div 1.

As for us, gonna be an interesting year!! Mission: Get good at X-ball, quick!!

Huge thanks to everyone who supported Kellys at CC!! It makes a huge difference!!

Don't forget Cynergy. We just missed out on our Div 1 spot for next year, but you can bet your ass that we'll come out fighting in Div 2 and be hungry for that promotion... we know we belong in Div 1 and we'll be back there soon enough.

Congrats to Kelly's and keep on representing guys - the UK needs more teams like you. The only way that's going to happen any time soon is if the player base re-organises itself as Pete has suggested. We need the driven players in driven teams, not stuck in squads that don't have the aspiration and determination to succeed. As the off-season approaches, all UK players need to be asking themselves what they want out of this sport and if they are in the right team to help them realise their full potential.

Oh, and thanks for the ass-kicking by the way! You guys were on fire at CC.

 

[Jasper]

DW, I think the point is, any team who gains such a significant degree of success in what is supposed to be a competitive environment can only indicate a depressed level of play within that league.
We need a systematic change to our leagues and teams if we are to ever have any real aspirations for becoming competitive in the European environment.

.

Totally agree with you there

 

[Jasper]

You guys may not have trained, but you sure aint a bunch of rookies. Each one of you was already of a high standard when you formed Northern Heroes. The fact that you did not train just means that you really under achieved this year.
Still where does that leave the rest of us??

With a lot of work to do still

Yes your right we werent rookies this year however the heroes only started in the middle of 2004 when the old guys who used to play many years before in the woods came back in to paintball an brought in their sons. For this year i joined them an yes i had been playing a while longer (since the last event of the year in 2002) but the best result i had in any team was 3rd in div3 in Toulouse in 2004 i had only played div1 in any uk league once before. So i wouldnt say we were of the high standard your saying we were.

 

[Robbo]

OK, as I mentioned earlier, it seems pretty obvious to me where our problems are. For the amount of teams who have registered here in this thread, we should be displaying a much better level of play for the degree of training you are committing to, and this should then be reflected in our positions in the Millennium ...and it isn't, not even close.

MY conclusion has to be, we ain't training correctly, that is, we are turning up on a Sunday (or whenever), and just going thru the motions of training rather than spending that time actually improving our playing levels.

Levels of play on a Paintball field are as I have said many times before, an emergent property of talent base within the team and the training done.
And that training has to be done regularly and correctly or believe me, everybody is wasting their time and money.

As I mentioned somewhere else, I don't mind helping out here but I can only help out if those teams who genuinely want to improve.
I don't mind holding a clinic for all those teams who express interest in improving, and we can do this down at D7's.

If we need to do it regionally, then I don't mind but the reason I mention D7's is because I live about 10 minutes from there and if you wanna turn up then the cost per player per day is gonna be about £30 per player.

This is not a fortune, in fact it's fack all and that's because I ain't looking to shed loads of money from anyone here.
When you compare it to what you guys might blow at some tourney somewhere or some inappropriate training session, then it's not a king's ransom, nowhere near.

I will make sure you not only go away from this weekend with a profound understanding of our beloved sport but you will also be exampled with some of our best players showing you differing and wholly appropriate techniques.
I know enough people to make sure you guys get the best examples of whatever technique I am teaching and that way, you get both the technical understanding and also the visual appreciation.

Not to put to fine a point on all this and to make things absolutely clear, I ain't doing this for the money, I think most of you guys realize (the ones who know me anyway) just why I am doing it.
I am sick of hearing about teams training who are getting nowhere , I am sick of hearing people talk about paintball who have no frikkin idea what they are on about, I am sick of seeing Brit teams suck at tourneys ....... I will put the time in to improve things, if you will.

And the bottom line is this guys, if you feel it's not what you wanna do and you think you will be better placed swerving this clinic or believing you know better..no problemo, good luck to ya, I have done my bit both on the field and off, I ain't got fack all else to prove but I want you guys to do the self same thing and not have to go back slapping a bunch of Swedes (no offence Mag) jumping on some Euro bandwagon just to try and squeeze out some credit from somewhere else.

I think the idea maybe, we try to get our Brit asses up the tourney ladder.

Now if you guys are serious, I don't mind helping out, if you are interested then email me on robbo@aceville.com and we can work out a date.

 

[Mario]

Robbo i applaud your efforts. I do however think there is one crucial factor that you possibly haven't taken into account.

Many UK teams dont feel as if they have the money/time/balls to enter into a major league tournament. You know as well as i do that teams will spout all the rhetoric you can take but when it comes down to it they wont actually use the knowledge you give them to put themselves in a place of dominance because they dont want to make the sacrifice. And in the end thats what it all comes down to. Sacrifice.

I was willing to make the sacrifice but became disenchanted with paintball, and paintballers. I dont think ive known a more selfish type pf people in my life. Most are content with doing as little as possible for as much as possible.

We have seen changes over the past year or so with the likes of NK and Cynergy as well as Shock etc becoming really serious about paintball. I only wish i could say the same about all the other teams.

I find it a great pity because there is so much talent out there being held back by the actions of others who like you say believe they know what they are talking about when in fact they know very little.

To those teams who've flagged their interest up on here - i salute you. I also hope that you take advantage of the oppurtunity that robbo is presenting for you. He is uniquely placed to give you advice on every facet of modern paintball. Whilst i may not always agree with the way he goes about things, in the end he gets results, and i hope you do to.

 

[Robbo]

Robbo i applaud your efforts. I do however think there is one crucial factor that you possibly haven't taken into account.

Many UK teams dont feel as if they have the money/time/balls to enter into a major league tournament. You know as well as i do that teams will spout all the rhetoric you can take but when it comes down to it they wont actually use the knowledge you give them to put themselves in a place of dominance because they dont want to make the sacrifice. And in the end thats what it all comes down to. Sacrifice.

I was willing to make the sacrifice but became disenchanted with paintball, and paintballers. I dont think ive known a more selfish type pf people in my life. Most are content with doing as little as possible for as much as possible.

We have seen changes over the past year or so with the likes of NK and Cynergy as well as Shock etc becoming really serious about paintball. I only wish i could say the same about all the other teams.

I find it a great pity because there is so much talent out there being held back by the actions of others who like you say believe they know what they are talking about when in fact they know very little.

To those teams who've flagged their interest up on here - i salute you. I also hope that you take advantage of the opportunity that robbo is presenting for you. He is uniquely placed to give you advice on every facet of modern paintball. Whilst i may not always agree with the way he goes about things, in the end he gets results, and i hope you do to.

Mario, point taken mate, but all I can do is create an opportunity and if people take it up, then cool, if they don't, well.....I might then delete every goddamn post I see bemoaning the state of UK paintball that isn 't written by myself, Sid from the Clan, Chris Pelling and a few more besides, because it would seem there are only a very few of us that even really bother to care.

The opportunity is there for all the teams who responded in this thread ... we shall see how it pans out.

And Chris, as for not agreeing with the way I go about things sometimes, you won't get no arguments from me on that one but trust me on this next point mate, there are a few real *******s out there in Paintball, the vast majority of whom operate in the background behind people's backs, snideballs with no balls.
I hate them and their weakness and I will confront them on these boards, everywhere I find them and if they choose to act that way to my face then that is their choice, not mine.
And in that instance, everybody, and I mean everybody has a breaking point because provocation has many guises, and come November 5th, you won't see me moaning about fireworks going off after I lit them ... you get my drift?
I hope so !

 

[Mario]

And Chris, as for not agreeing with the way I go about things sometimes, you won't get no arguments from me on that one but trust me on this next point mate, there are a few real *******s out there in Paintball, the vast majority of whom operate in the background behind people's backs, snideballs with no balls.
I hate them and their weakness and I will confront them on these boards, everywhere I find them and if they choose to act that way to my face then that is their choice, not mine.
And in that instance, everybody, and I mean everybody has a breaking point because provocation has many guises, and come November 5th, you won't see me moaning about fireworks going off after I lit them ... you get my drift?
I hope so !

Robbo i know from experience that there are some real *******s out there.

Good luck.

 

[Flint]

Robbo, If you did a training day anywhere please let me know. Im part of a new team that has a simple ambition to be the best. We've been training once a week though this has dropped because of some team mates going to uni and the weather! Our resources are limited as is our experience. If you could help us we would really appreciate it. I've read your posts and its simply made me more determind to get my team up to the top! We have the commitment, I've made a lot of sacrifices to get this team going and I do not intend to let if fail.

 

[Robbo]

Robbo, If you did a training day anywhere please let me know. Im part of a new team that has a simple ambition to be the best. We've been training once a week though this has dropped because of some team mates going to uni and the weather! Our resources are limited as is our experience. If you could help us we would really appreciate it. I've read your posts and its simply made me more determind to get my team up to the top! We have the commitment, I've made a lot of sacrifices to get this team going and I do not intend to let if fail.

Well, let's hope we get enough teams from here wanting to take the same route as you, and if we do, then I will be posting the seminar dates and locations up here.
If there's not enough interest then the die is cast and we will continue to be 'also rans' and wallow in mediocrity.
I have of late, seen little gems of recovery and maybe these are indicators to what Brit ballers have lurking underneath the apparent indifference to our level of play.
But history tells me they tend to fizzle out and amount to nothing more than a flash in the pan.
I sincerely hope not because there is nothing I would rather see than witnessing a resurgence in the way we conduct and train ourselves and I for one would prefer to feel a wave of pride as I look over the millennium leagues instead of the acute embarrassment I feel now.
Once again, the paintball is in our court guys......