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Robbo

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He's referring to the imminent purchase of PMI and National by an outside investment company that is unlikely to see the wisdom in dumping hundreds of thousands of dollars a year into pro paintball teams.


Bejeeeezus, that's weeks old.........:rolleyes:

And as far as I know, it's actually moved on from there...

And Chi, that's the beginning maybes of the Emperor's new clothes boy in the crowd.....Oh my !
 

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To answer a couple of your spazz questions

Pete,

I don't think that Furby was suggesting a white knight of sponsorship; I believe he was attempting to say that the well has been drying up and now its going to dry up faster.

It sounds as if you've got an inside line on the SPL thing, so far as the look is concerned.

They're still missing one MAJOR let here though - where's the promotion for the show? I've seen no commercials, no ads, no mailings, no nothing.

Anyone in TV will tell you that if you don't have that, phtttt!

You need the content, the production, the sponsors, the channel, the airtime and advertising. AND advertising.

Right now, I think the only people who know of this show are people in paintball.
The production team are a very well respected and proffesional group, the camera guys well fantastic and realy got into their work , at lunch listening to these guys talk about angles how to get a better shot was the real deal.
One guy wanted to do a eye in the sky....... so as for production you could not have asked for a better team. These guys realy enjoyed them selves and after the first 2 games understood the concept of the x ball style format.
This is the point that was clear to these people how to get across the game to the joe public so it was clear to them.
Having seen how this has been put together I hope for paintball's sake this works as in my humble opnion this is the tv coverage I have seen put together.
Okay Pete you know who I work for and for once I am not being biased.
As for the rest time can only tell but the work and effort put by Billy and Adam to get this done right has to be respected.
 

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Having the right people holding the cameras is essential. I've had one camera crew that was great and got us the best footage to date and another crew that sucked and forced us to work with what we had to work with.

The crew of the NPPL show was the latter variety, unfortunately - so if the SP show got cameras in people's hands and on the field (and not mostly on booms and towers on the sidelines) there's a lot of potential for some good footage there.


What I'm surprised no one has hit on yet is that the SP show was filmed basically in a studio; no other divisions, no vendors, etc. So if that's successful, how does that impact the either of the national circuits? Does the next production colocate with a series? Or does it continue to just get filmed in a 4-5 day crunch in a studio somewhere?

And if so, is that good for the sport? Do we want made-for-TV paintball, or do we want a season that actually gets filmed?
 

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camera guys

Having the right people holding the cameras is essential. I've had one camera crew that was great and got us the best footage to date and another crew that sucked and forced us to work with what we had to work with.

The crew of the NPPL show was the latter variety, unfortunately - so if the SP show got cameras in people's hands and on the field (and not mostly on booms and towers on the sidelines) there's a lot of potential for some good footage there.


What I'm surprised no one has hit on yet is that the SP show was filmed basically in a studio; no other divisions, no vendors, etc. So if that's successful, how does that impact the either of the national circuits? Does the next production colocate with a series? Or does it continue to just get filmed in a 4-5 day crunch in a studio somewhere?

And if so, is that good for the sport? Do we want made-for-TV paintball, or do we want a season that actually gets filmed?
To answer one part of your question they had 4 sideline camera guys 2 each side in the corners and they got the living crap shot out of them and much respect to these guys . They also had 2 minature wide angle remotes on the snake side that could capture any move down the snake, then there was 2 teams that were either behind the break out or in the team box's recording the players reactions bleep bleep I am sure will be used.

The arena used was one they use for concerts basket ball etc in fact after the last game we only had about 8 hours to clean up as Willy Nelson crew were comung in to set up.
The benefit of the indoor arena was the quality of the photography totally cool.
 

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:):):):):) - Come on Grays, why spoil the habits of a lifetime mate ????

And Gray, I know how much they have put in and I know what the end result is like and I have also credited them for doing just that.
Just so you know Pete, Adam spent nearly 3 weeks in New York working with the edititing people, just insane hours what I have seen will please even you, of course we were not graced with your perfect smile but there is all ways the future bet the the ******* put me on the cutting room floor though :)
 

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The benefit of the indoor arena was the quality of the photography totally cool.
I'll hold my judgement until I've seen it, but I think paintball looks a lot better filmed outdoors.

That's just an "icing" thing though. And I have no idea what the arena setup was. The camera setup sounds pretty good. I couldn't believe that the crew for the NPPL show used essentially the same camera setup that the NXL used in 2004, given how poor that show turned out.



Do you know if the SP show was filmed in HD? One thing the NPPL show definitely had going for it was the overhead cam, but it's tough to make anything out on a standard-def TV (thus the highlight targets). Would be very cool to have a wide-screen HD overhead view from the 50.
 

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What I'm surprised no one has hit on yet is that the SP show was filmed basically in a studio; no other divisions, no vendors, etc.

So if that's successful, how does that impact the either of the national circuits? Does the next production colocate with a series? Or does it continue to just get filmed in a 4-5 day crunch in a studio somewhere?

And if so, is that good for the sport? Do we want made-for-TV paintball, or do we want a season that actually gets filmed?
The indoor environment was outstanding. The only real weakness was the quasi-Xball layout and the fact not a full crew of refs was on hand but both those features won't likely impact the production even if it impacted the play.

This is the $64,000 question and the survival of one or both leagues may depend on the answer.

I would, of course, side with an actual season but there are issues with that too. (Another shameless plug--keep an eye out for my solution coming soon in PGi.:) )
 

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You are like a walking, typing promotion machine! October 6 will tell us much about the SPL. I can tell you from the people I know that a TON of energy and resources have been expended on it. And as much as people like bagging on Billy and Adam, their full force is focused on making this production the best paintball on TV to date.
 

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Just so you know Pete, Adam spent nearly 3 weeks in New York working with the edititing people, just insane hours what I have seen will please even you, of course we were not graced with your perfect smile but there is all ways the future bet the the ******* put me on the cutting room floor though :)
....Even me????
You make it sound as though I am hard to please, I'm not actually, I just don't wanna see Spesh do any more fag dance routines :)
Nah, I have heard a lot and if it's half as good as the people who have seen it say it is, then it could be a winner.
Let's hope it is but if it is, I wonder how the cards will fall for world Paintball then...I would think there are a lot of nervous people sitting around at the moment wondering wtf is gonna happen.

From my point of view, I have no problem with the A & B show, it's you know who that worries me ....... he doesn't exactly have a track record of conciliatory and or professional behaviour.....