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Is paintball being promoted enough in the UK?

Sid_Clan

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No it's not and I think this has all been covered in various other threads with the UK disgrace, state of UK paintball and so on and so forth.

I guess that's why as soon as any of us see paintball in the media or indeed TV we cream our pants cos someone outside the paintball industry has shown it.

Pity really, it has so much potential if we could just get it right.

Sid
 

andyrik

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And I believe all you have to do to promote tournament paintball is have some type of information/magazines and links to websites at wood ball paintball sites.
magaines sounbds like a good idea... cept the only problem is, i can only sceem to find magazines on the internet.
iv looked in wh smiths and other shops alike in leeds, sheffield huddersfield and norwhich and i've found no trace of paintball magazines, yet there are some crap ones that tell you how to walk up a hill.
there should be more shops that sell pb magazines.
 

PortoX

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No tom your one of the paintball marshals we all love! What I mean is though for people who interested the marshals can point them in the direction of these forums or what would be good magazines information packs relating to tournament paintball which are given/sold on site.
we put out magazines in our safe area but most of them get stolen ... which means more cost to us.

i have indeed pointed people in the past in the right direction (i.e. these forums and magazines) but nine times out of ten they come back within 2 months and say ... 'no one could be bothered, seems like too much work'

believe me mate its like selling dvd's to punters ... HARD!

plus its the same with equipment we sell goggles with thermal lenses at cheap prices (RRP usually £35 for a pari of JT flex7's) and we have sold 1 yes thats right 1 set in 4 months ... see a re-occuring theme here

plus also you say giving out leaflets etc should be done which a)sounds good in plan but b) looks bad in cost and effort

also if you notice alot of people at tourneys give out cards etc ... how actually keeps them gerished away in a secure place when your about to go on field? answer to that no one!

its all good mate but till we can have alot more sites having sup air on at the same time and nearby to customers people wont notice ...

unless we get it on mainstream TV which wont happen for along long time (proven point being the PA's costs for the sky coverage that ended up on obscure channels and stupid times)

its always gonna be hard and as sid says this is old news been bitten into again
 

Liz

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Liz, betwixt and between the two extremes of guys earning bundles of dosh and others scraping a living, lie the majority of our site owners, and all of them could do with a 101 class in basic economics, investment, forecasting and customer care.
Liz, you already know I don't suffer fools gladly but if there's one thing I detest more than an idiot, it's greedy people, especially when that greed is accompanied a complete lack of professionalism which so often seems to be the case when I cast my eye toward the majority of our site owners.

There are obviously many exceptions to this classification but if the majority of our site owners were good then we really wouldn't be in the state we are in now.
Not arguing with you there at all Pete, I know people at all levels of site ownership as well and in general we are in total agreement.
I was just making a point to the guys who understand nothing about a certain aspect of paintball then pronounce on it as though they knew everything - I'm sure you get people telling you how to play/manage a team/write for the mag etc even now, and they probably pi$$ you off as many people do me.
 

Robbo

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Not arguing with you there at all Pete, I know people at all levels of site ownership as well and in general we are in total agreement.
I was just making a point to the guys who understand nothing about a certain aspect of paintball then pronounce on it as though they knew everything - I'm sure you get people telling you how to play/manage a team/write for the mag etc even now, and they probably pi$$ you off as many people do me.

100% in agreement with that Liz !
 

Buddha 3

Hamfist McPunchalot
But again I was mainly talking about sites that aren't filled to capacity and struggle to break even. And yes running a site is expensive but as you keep pointing out it cost sites more than the price of paint with insurance and rentand all that stuff but this has to be payed whether the site is in use or not so all I was saying is that sites that are only breaking even shouldn't have the kneejerk reaction of raising prices and I don't see whats wrong with that?

ps what on earth is carting?

Huh?
Are you saying that people who barely make money should not think of ways to make a bit more? And where on earth did I mention they should increase their prices? Do you even understand what we are talking about here?

And carting is the thing you do in a go cart.... try using google.
 

Tartan Blaster

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Huh?
Are you saying that people who barely make money should not think of ways to make a bit more? And where on earth did I mention they should increase their prices? Do you even understand what we are talking about here?

And carting is the thing you do in a go cart.... try using google.
what?
All I was saying if your site isn't filled to capacity and your not making money it isn't the right thing to do to go about raising prices as there is obviously not enough demand at your current prices let alone higher ones. So sure sites who barely make money should try and make more but these sites wont be filled to capacity and raising prices will only serve to lower the already small demand decreasing revenues further. Also how did I imply that you said sites should raise prices?
ah and you mean go karting the c confused me
 

Buddha 3

Hamfist McPunchalot
Read your own previous post again, it makes very little sense... Might have something to do with the lack of things like full stops and commas in it though. It was very hard for me to make sense of what you were trying to say, that's why I asked.

However, YOU are the person that first mentioned price increases, and I have no idea where that came from. Experience shows that most of the struggling sites tend to lower their prices, do special coupon deals and what have you. Since many of these people struggle because they are not that good at selling themselves, they will struggle even more, since they will have an only marginally increased business, but at lowered turnover per capital.

If you research the problem, I think you will find (like I did) that the cost of booking a day's paintball is not what is holding these companies back. Rather it is a lack of ability in profiling themselves.

Please guys, can we get past this money thing? It ain't the problem! I understand that most of you mean well, but you really have no idea what's going on past the counter where the punters pick up their paint.
It is funny and sad at the same time that you are still discussing the money issue, rather than a real problem like promotion of walkon days and whatever comes next. If you do not understand the importance of that issue, you really have no clue, you are at least as short sighted as many of the site owners... (Ooh! Maybe we can get paint for cheaper, that'll be ace for ME!)

For the last time, money is not the issue. If it were, how come YOU are playing? How come so many of us fork out buckets-o-cash every six months for the latest marker? How come many of us MUST have this year's Dye clothing, rather than last year's? Does it improve your game?
And so what if some people can't afford to play paintball because they come from a low income situation? As sad as it is for these people, most of these people won't join a soccer club either, because they would rather buy food than spend a month's rent money on contribution.
 

Ralph

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iv looked in wh smiths and other shops alike in leeds, sheffield huddersfield and norwhich and i've found no trace of paintball magazines, yet there are some crap ones that tell you how to walk up a hill.there should be more shops that sell pb magazines.
NOT THAT I INTEND TO DO IT BUT........

Walking up a hill relatively free all you need is a decent pair of boots and some enthusiasum. Buying a decent pair of boots to play paintball is just the start.
Unlike Paintball the whole family can get involved with hill walking if they so wish but not essential and i would suspect that the publications that promote such activities also give you information as to where to walk and what to look out for, where to stay and the best times of the year to do it. As for more shops selling mags i would assume that is down to demand from potential customers. No demand= No mags.