Speedball vs Woodsball marker
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what type would you recommend? i cant get a SAFER 1.5L which is only 238mm long, but the SAFER tanks are lighter then others
the 1.5l safer tank is 0.2kg lighter then a 1.1l guerilla air tank, but obiously much more expensive as i would need a regulator. 1.1l 4500psi is only £164 but obviously has the regulator already fitted
the 1.5l safer tank is 0.2kg lighter then a 1.1l guerilla air tank, but obiously much more expensive as i would need a regulator. 1.1l 4500psi is only £164 but obviously has the regulator already fitted
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if you can tell the 0.2kg difference on the field then your more sensitive than me lol. guerilla g2 is what im using and i think its great but its pretty short, give L.I.P.S a bell or any store for that matter and they will likely give you a deal if you prefer a ninja regs length on a guerilla tank or other
i work for phoenix so i can get stuff sorted out 
the guerilla is rather short your right, do you know how much longer the ninja reg is compared to the guerilla?
the guerilla is rather short your right, do you know how much longer the ninja reg is compared to the guerilla?
Add GA Myths to the regulator choices.
Also compact, and have user serviceable / rebuildable parts and can have parts switched by the user to by HP or LP.
A problem some markers will have with compact regulators is clearance at the ASA. The fill nipple may get in the way when screwing in. For the markers you are discussing this should not be a problem
For some of my markers I cannot use all of my cylinders because of the fill nipple getting in the way. Not an issue when I go remote.
There is a workaround to remove the ASA, attach the cylinder then reattach the ASA. Too much effort normally, but this is how I attach a 13ci to the rail below the barrel of my pistol.
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On the 2 litre cylinder front it could be overkill. You would certainly have to shoot a lot of paint to use that up, but always remember the balance between how much air and how much paint you can carry. Too much of one is just additional weight - however with too much air you can borrow paint from team mates, and with too much paint you can lend out paint.
If you carry more paint then air then you can sometimes fill in game at some events, or just go to the fill station and top up without returning to your staging area for paint.
Another factor is how long are you in game / how far you haev to go to the staging area.
(e.g. if there are no medic rules and you have to go to the safe zone to respawn then you can just as well get an air fill and paint top up.)
Back in the day air fill queues used to be long, so the more air you can get in one go the bettter. These days there are ususally plenty fill stations and queues only for the last minute players as the game is about to start because they didnt allow time to prepare and fill when there wasnt a queue
Your original concern was efficiency & air capacity so the biggest cylinder will solve this, but it may not be so essential to be the biggest
Also compact, and have user serviceable / rebuildable parts and can have parts switched by the user to by HP or LP.
A problem some markers will have with compact regulators is clearance at the ASA. The fill nipple may get in the way when screwing in. For the markers you are discussing this should not be a problem
For some of my markers I cannot use all of my cylinders because of the fill nipple getting in the way. Not an issue when I go remote.
There is a workaround to remove the ASA, attach the cylinder then reattach the ASA. Too much effort normally, but this is how I attach a 13ci to the rail below the barrel of my pistol.
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On the 2 litre cylinder front it could be overkill. You would certainly have to shoot a lot of paint to use that up, but always remember the balance between how much air and how much paint you can carry. Too much of one is just additional weight - however with too much air you can borrow paint from team mates, and with too much paint you can lend out paint.
If you carry more paint then air then you can sometimes fill in game at some events, or just go to the fill station and top up without returning to your staging area for paint.
Another factor is how long are you in game / how far you haev to go to the staging area.
(e.g. if there are no medic rules and you have to go to the safe zone to respawn then you can just as well get an air fill and paint top up.)
Back in the day air fill queues used to be long, so the more air you can get in one go the bettter. These days there are ususally plenty fill stations and queues only for the last minute players as the game is about to start because they didnt allow time to prepare and fill when there wasnt a queue
Your original concern was efficiency & air capacity so the biggest cylinder will solve this, but it may not be so essential to be the biggest
What i will most likely do it buy the marker and hopper, then get a tank afterwards. I think for the extra £45 i will be better off with the 1.5l safer tank and a guerilla regulator, should give me a good length from my shoulder to fire from, i will check tanks to the marker and try a range before buying them, weight isnt really an issue but since phoenix sell the safer tanks its easier to get that sorted. I now have my shopping list will try some speedball markers in a couple of weeks, then decide if i want it. Need some excuse to spend money
The site often never has air unless prebooked far in advance so having the larger tank will let me have it filled at a shop then hopefully do a full days play without needing to hope they have air left. All depends on the day and how much notice i give to have the dive bottle filled
will try some speedball markers in a couple of weeks, then decide if i want it. Need some excuse to spend money The site often never has air unless prebooked far in advance so having the larger tank will let me have it filled at a shop then hopefully do a full days play without needing to hope they have air left. All depends on the day and how much notice i give to have the dive bottle filled
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Very important point there
It's easy to forget not every site has HPA compressors on site, and there are a good few that run CO2 still - which means either no HPA or dive bottle fills.
It also means you won't necessarliy get maximum fills. They need to have a higher pressure in the source to maintain fills for the customers. If they have a 3000psi scuba source then you get more consistent fills for everyone longer through the day if you ration to say 2500psi.
If the first gets a maximum fill then the second gets less, the tenth gets a dribble.
If they have a 4500psi source then 3000psi fills will last a good while
If they fill fibres higher then again it should be rationed a bit
DO OF COURSE TAKE CARE with scuba fills. Always fill slowly and make sure that you know if the fill station is regulated or not and especially if not make sure you know the source pressure. Remember 300bar marked on a scuba is 4500psi to paintballers
It is possible to fill 3000psi from an unregulated 4500psi source, but it is dodgy and has to be done with great care.
In this case the bigger the better (Does mean you are getting the lions share at the start)
I know the site fill 3000psi but unsure at 4500psi so going to check later today. Im going to drop off my omega for testing later, and try some speedball markers so should be sure by tonight
Really the air issue is why im going to larger then a normal size, i will get both my 3k tank and 4.5k tank filled so i have a backup if the 4.5k runs low. Chances of no air is high so best to have it sorted. So far the 3k has only been filled to 2k due to lack of air so the more it can hold even at lower pressures will be better for me in the lo g run
Really the air issue is why im going to larger then a normal size, i will get both my 3k tank and 4.5k tank filled so i have a backup if the 4.5k runs low. Chances of no air is high so best to have it sorted. So far the 3k has only been filled to 2k due to lack of air so the more it can hold even at lower pressures will be better for me in the lo g run
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