I agree that there other factors (the character of the owners being among them) that would make a team more 'loyal' to their sponsors. I was not saying that ALL Euro teams are more loyal that ALL U.S. teams, just those Euro teams that are competing at the top level in their formats (now being Joy and Nexus), by way of geography and logistics they've got the sh!t end of the stick: whereby all the events are held 000s of miles away. Couple this with 2 European companies that have had the same sort of uphill struggle in competing in a market, the hub of which being in the same place; this, surey will strengthen the bond between company, team and team management because they're all in the same boat. Mirror this with U.S. teams that have had a booming market and 2...3...or 4 leagues right on their doorsteps, handed to them on a plate, it seems logical to me that the Euro teams are going to be more loyal to their European sponsors than 25 of these U.S. teams. I seem to remember in a very old issue of PGi (about this time 2004 IIRC) in which some div1/div2 NPPL team had spraypainted over their JT logos on their jerseys for something trival like 'their new '05 kit hadn't been shipped out to them in time, so for this tournement they had to wear the stuff they'd used all season'. I doubt you'd catch a Nexus or Joy Division doing that (granted they need to act more professionally, because that's what they are) because they value their sponsors; this team had obviously had everything handed to them on a silver platter and the first time something goes wrong they act like that.MissyQ said:
Case in point Arsenal's recent hissy fit when then didn't get their AngelOnes at the start of the season and jumped ship to Planet.Tw!sted said:
I'd like to think a person can be both professional and loyal and I think Magued steers that course very well but I see soo many examples of what's conveniently termed 'professionalism' which contradict any notions I have of being loyal.Tw!sted said:I agree that there other factors (the character of the owners being among them) that would make a team more 'loyal' to their sponsors. I was not saying that ALL Euro teams are more loyal that ALL U.S. teams, just those Euro teams that are competing at the top level in their formats (now being Joy and Nexus), by way of geography and logistics they've got the sh!t end of the stick: whereby all the events are held 000s of miles away. Couple this with 2 European companies that have had the same sort of uphill struggle in competing in a market, the hub of which being in the same place; this, surey will strengthen the bond between company, team and team management because they're all in the same boat. Mirror this with U.S. teams that have had a booming market and 2...3...or 4 leagues right on their doorsteps, handed to them on a plate, it seems logical to me that the Euro teams are going to be more loyal to their European sponsors than 25 of these U.S. teams. I seem to remember in a very old issue of PGi (about this time 2004 IIRC) in which some div1/div2 NPPL team had spraypainted over their JT logos on their jerseys for something trival like 'their new '05 kit hadn't been shipped out to them in time, so for this tournement they had to wear the stuff they'd used all season'. I doubt you'd catch a Nexus or Joy Division doing that (granted they need to act more professionally, because that's what they are) because they value their sponsors; this team had obviously had everything handed to them on a silver platter and the first time something goes wrong they act like that.
My original point was of of 'Euro-teams-competing-in-the-U.S.'s realative loyalty to their European sponsors; as opposed to U.S. teams loyalty to U.S. sponsors (more readily available). Fickle seems to be the watchword
to be replaced by one nice looking gat. females only, i think not, is it just me that actually thinks that'd be an awesome colour scheme for a marker. "ha, you just got mowed by my pink gat, complaining now???" 