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duffistuta

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Bagpuss said:
LOL, No! You German is rusty! Go on you will figure it out! :p
Doh! I made it summat like, After the success of the DPL in the last year, which 77 teams competed in...
 

Bon

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I look at it like this though, if you had big sponsorship deals, and were paid to play paintball, as long as you were good enough you got a salary like David Beckham, how many people would try to better themselfs? Im guessing a fair few. But with that, you then get the people of my age (17) and lower who would want to get upto that skill level in order to get the sponsorships and the cash.

But as bagpuss pointed out, there is a HUGE ammount of obsticles that need to be overcome, and people attitudes is one of them. Hell, ill admit it now, in a few years im going to be setting up a paintball business, dont know what part of paintball but im doing it purely for the cash. I worked out the other day my local must of taken £2000 profit on top of all the expenses. Now to a business man, 2000 profit a day on top of your self employed wage, dont tell me that isnt tempting.

But one thing I will keep at mind is this thread and the points brought up in it. I totaly agree with needing to get a proper governing body in place, but who will take the first steps into setting it up properly?
 
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duffistuta

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Bon said:
I look at it like this though, if you had big sponsorship deals, and were paid to play paintball, as long as you were good enough you got a salary like David Beckham, how many people would try to better themselfs? Im guessing a fair few. But with that, you then get the people of my age (17) and lower who would want to get upto that skill level in order to get the sponsorships and the cash.

But as bagpuss pointed out, there is a HUGE ammount of obsticles that need to be overcome, and people attitudes is one of them. Hell, ill admit it now, in a few years im going to be setting up a paintball business, dont know what part of paintball but im doing it purely for the cash. I worked out the other day my local must of taken £2000 profit on top of all the expenses. Now to a business man, 2000 profit a day on top of your self employed wage, dont tell me that isnt tempting.

But one thing I will keep at mind is this thread and the points brought up in it. I totaly agree with needing to get a proper governing body in place, but who will take the first steps into setting it up properly?

^^^^^Everything that is wrong with kids today^^^^^^^^^

:eek: ;)
 

Mario

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Ben Frain said:
I don't doubt the heady sense of pride that comes with achievment but for others, there are different fish to fry. It's arrogant to assume that everyone else is a looser or doing the wrong thing if they don't follow suit. After all, tournament paintball wouldn't even exist, were it not for the rental scene to partly subsidise it.

Whether you treat is as such, paintball as a 'sport' currently offers no benefit beyond itself. It is noble and admirable to aspire to greatness in any field, and I also feel that if it is your inclination to try and be the best at something it needs no further justification. However, many would rather devote the lions share of their free time and efforts into something with more of a tangible benefit.

In ten years time, you may wish you had spent more of your time investing in definates rather than chasing fortune and glory. ;)
I dont see anyone as a loser in this sport ben :) I bloody love the woods :) I have no problem with ballers doing what they wish to do in they're own field of paintball. Thats not my problem. It's those that cry foul because they dont see paintball moving forward and yet they wont do anything about it who my bone of contention is with.

My free time is currently spent on a degree ;) which in todays economic climate should count for sweet f.a. when its finished. :)

again i agree with you ben, twice in one week. what on earth is the world coming too? :)
 

Mario

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BA (hons) Design. TBH its an excuse to do as little as possible for three years before i actually go into the industry. It's all about the portfolio of work rather than the degree.

Fun nonetheless :)
 

Markie C

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Oli how can you say that no takes the time to introduce new people into the sport.

not true our team has newbie days once or twice a month to help new players into the tournament scene.

Our team now is built up on 4 players that we have brought into paintball from our newbies day which i got them to come to because i work at planet on a Saturday and spend time with them and give them advice....

We are very lucky we have the Kelly's as our home team and some times new players just come down to have trigger time with them and the Kelly's are always helping new players out...

Pebble from the Kelly's the other day spent all morning helping players learn how to dive the right way now he could of just turned around and said no but he didn't he made time for them which all the Kelly's do ( Thank You boys)

BEN:
yes you did get my point that was the same as i was thinking i just wanted a second opinion.
 
markie c said:
Oli how can you say that no takes the time to introduce new people into the sport.

not true our team has newbie days once or twice a month to help new players into the tournament scene.

Our team now is built up on 4 players that we have brought into paintball from our newbies day which i got them to come to because i work at planet on a Saturday and spend time with them and give them advice....

We are very lucky we have the Kelly's as our home team and some times new players just come down to have trigger time with them and the Kelly's are always helping new players out...

Pebble from the Kelly's the other day spent all morning helping players learn how to dive the right way now he could of just turned around and said no but he didn't he made time for them which all the Kelly's do ( Thank You boys)

BEN:
yes you did get my point that was the same as i was thinking i just wanted a second opinion.

Wicked...good to hear that there are people out there that do it!

Cheers for that Markie
 

Iron Lions - Ed

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For sake of clarification, can somebody actually define, succinctly what it is they want?
I think Ben has it here. Until we have a clear idea of what we want it's a bit hard to come up with a roadplan. We kind of know we want to go in a certain direction and somethings do change over time but without a clearly defined goal the process is going to take a long time.

For me the goal has to be having tournament paintball organised to the stage it can be recognised as a sport.

Lot's of other general goals stem the journey there or from the increased marketability it offers once done. i.e Unified Rules, Better marshalling, Better Venues (Organisation and Infrastructure) etc etc. As a player I have a limited ability to action these except to express my views and support those that take steps to achieve my goal or steps in it's direction. By support I don't just mean vocal support on the forums but by taking part in events that move in that direction (at home and abroad), registering with governing bodies and influencing my team to share my goals.
I also believe there will still be a place for Sunday league players to play the same types of series we have now and have no problem with them as it from them we want to draw the sportmen while they draw on recballers to populate them. In fact I would expect them to be far more populous than the "Real Players". It's the "natural" pyramid structure.

With regards to new players we are very keen on bringing them in. We have one of the highest profile team websites on the Intraweb. Try typing in Paintball Team on a google wide world search and see who's on the frontpage in 5th. This is where we get most of our recruits from. The vast majority of our players, including myself, found the website and came down to meet us and stayed on. The only experienced players we have taken have all been from abroad and moving to the UK. Again found the website.(Note: we have no objection to recruiting experienced players!)