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[Buddha 3]

Originally posted by Robbo
Well, since you've come out the closet and I know you ain't been short changed in the intelligence department, answer me this :-

Why is it, when I state a dislike for say, tomatoes, I am expressing my right as a free thinker and nobody has a problem but if I say I don't like gays, then I am made to feel guilty ?

If you are saying we are only allowed to have likes and dislikes when applied to inanimate objects then this is ridiculous for obvious reasons but if you then went onto say, I am not allowed or you think it inappropriate, that I dislike gays because they are people then this is equally ludicrous.
Enlighten me oh wise one !
Pete

Oh c'mon, that's too easy!
It's like this: everybody has a right to like and dislike certain things and persons and even groups (it is after all embedded in the human psyche to think in generalisations). However, these dislikes do not automatically mean that one will discriminate, for instance Pete will not attack every tomato he sees. It's only when you change your behavior towards a person on no other merit than the fact that this person is part of a group you are uncomfortable around, that things can go 'wrong'.
A person that says that he likes every single type of person on this planet, lies.
It's just human nature.

 

[Robbo]

Originally posted by Buddha 3
A person that says that he likes every single type of person on this planet, lies.
It's just human nature.

And in one fell swoop my friend you have nailed the very thing I detest most about PC'ites, they deny human nature in its most basic of forms.
They think by imposing their outrageous and unrealistic value set, or at least trying to, on us all, the manifestations of human expression will somehow disappear, they don't !
Pete

 

[duffistuta]

Reverse it

For example - I don't like 'gays'.

I like some people, I dislike some people - their sexuality plays no part in that decision.

Whereas some people dislike people based solely on things like race or sexuality, which is patently bollocks...

 

[Robbo]

Reverse it

Originally posted by duffistuta
For example - I don't like 'gays'.

I like some people, I dislike some people - their sexuality plays no part in that decision.

Whereas some people dislike people based solely on things like race or sexuality, which is patently bollocks...

And if a particular set or class of peoples exhibit traits of behaviour as a direct consequence of their set or class and I don't agree with that behavoiur, am I not able to discriminate on that basis or are you saying we cannot generalise?

Hmmm now Mr Duffster, which way do you jump ?
In the frying pan or onto the fire
'Come to me', said the spider to the fly guy !
Pete

 

[duffistuta]

Of course you are

If it were the case that all people from Croydon were violent sociopaths, you'd be justified in generalising them as a bunch of tossers. However, in the real world, no set or class behavse or thinks in a uniform manner, as you well know.

Anyway, we're boring people, let's do it up here.


PS I'm holding your P45...

 

[Robbo]

Of course you are

Originally posted by duffistuta
PS I'm holding your P45...

Ouch, now all of a sudden, everything becomes sooo much clearer, I love gays, I love everything and all peoples, I will even subscribe to the idea that women can play paintball.....................eeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkk................
Pete

 

[acsik]

MEDIIIIIIIIIIC robbo agreed on sumthin!


I hear the 4 horsemen of apocalypse approaching

 

[Buddha 3]

It's all because, like I said earlier, the human mind works in generalisations.
Pete makes a good point when he asks about a certain set or class exhibiting traits of behavior he doesn't like or agree with.
Exactly because the human mind works that way, one tends to say "I do not like such and such a group of people" when unwanted behavior is on avarage more prevalent in this group. However, it is perfectly possible to make exceptions.
For instance, to continue with the example used by Pete and Duffistuta, a lot of people can not stand the camp behavior one sees in parts of the gay community. Because this "information" is easier to process for the brain, this type of behavior is then attributed to the gay community as a whole, therefore these people do not like gay people. However, should these people ever run into a person that displays none of this behavior, but who happens to be homosexual, it is quite possible for them to get along just fine.
In other words, it is indeed the behavior that is disliked, but the human brain links patterns of behavior to certain groups, all based on life experience. If you run into a person that is part of such a group, but he does not fit in the mold created by that generalisation, the reaction of disliking this person will not be triggered.
We all say that generalistion is bad, but the truth is that the human mind can not work without it.
For the record, I'm not taking sides in this debate, just explaining a few things about the human mind.

 

[Sammi T - Nexus Eclipse]

I will even subscribe to the idea that women can play paintball.....................

Oh my God!!!
He finally admits it

 

[Liz]

Re: Of course you are

Originally posted by Robbo
I love everything and all peoples,

What - even Tyger?