Wasn't aware JT USA made riot gear.

[onutaka]

it does already cost then £2000+ for each riot officer!!!!

rubber bullet guns also cost bout £500, so just buy then a load of bushy's or impulses, saying that, rubber balls wouldn't really break would they, so an e-99 would work well enough!

that reminds me, there is somwhere around here that does paintball with hollow rubber balls, they use big pads that cover your torso that detect when you have been hit..... must go sometime!!!!

 

[Cube]

Originally posted by onutaka
that reminds me, there is somwhere around here that does paintball with hollow rubber balls, they use big pads that cover your torso that detect when you have been hit..... must go sometime!!!!

It's called Phazer Zone up here in Sunny Warrington

 

[jack]

imagine taking one of these to ur local site, when u run out of paint, just whip ur sidearm out of the shoulder strap and ur away again! good idea.

 

[Richard Kirke (DUPS Rocket) UK]

Thats the Met...

Originally posted by Smally85
... with the possible exception of maybe Greater Manchester the Met are probably the odd one out here. I know for sure that in Hampshire I can walk into my Dads Police Station get my bike and walk straight back out again without even speaking to anyone. The only place I have ever seen a Policeman holding a gun is at the Ferry Port (on the 10th September 2002) and on TV. British Police just don't carry them around that much.

Ever been to an airport? There are nearly always some armed police there (or maybe its just whenever I'm there...

Originally posted by Smally85

Having one of the cars on the patrol being an ARU does sound like a good idea though!
Now seeing the whole Police force equipped with Tippmans would be funny! They'd never catch anyone.... they'd be to busy painting the nearest tree
I think that the use of 'less-lethal' alternatives is a good idea as far as it goes... you couls use them when dealing with a crowd, but what are you going to do when someone pulls out an Uzi and starts spraying the place? I'd rather be behind an MP-5 than a Tippman!!

2p...chink

This is true, there is case for the deployment of each of these, but IMHO not everyday. Maybe in some areas police should be armed with side-arms as a matter of routine, I don't know.

Richard

 

[Smally85]

Ferry port/ Air Port....

... same difference! It got the point across!

Originally posted by Richard Kirke (DUPS Rocket) UK

This is true, there is case for the deployment of each of these, but IMHO not everyday. Maybe in some areas police should be armed with side-arms as a matter of routine, I don't know.

I think that if you look at the amount of crimes committed with a gun in the UK compared to the US not arming the Police is a good idea. If all the police are armed a criminal is more likely to want to have a gun himself. Maybe it would be better to just keep ARUs to do the job when needed.

2p.... this is getting expensive!

 

[Alex Hicks.]

Pepperballs: What if you chop?

 

[FAMINE]

Ha ha , alex we were having that discussion in the pub on friday.
Squeegying is no fuin at the best of times but with a pepperball would be kinda worse

So where do i get a case of this stuff? Theres a few teams out there that could use a little lesson,,,,,

Wipe this ya bas*tard

 

[Richard Kirke (DUPS Rocket) UK]

This is the usual rational

Used to defend the lack of armed police, and I have to say I agree with it.

The fewer real fire-arms I see, the happier my day is (as a general rule).

Richard

 

[joe bob]

i bet the glass shattering rounds could really hurt someone, mabe even kill u

 

[Gyroscope]

I own a small business in Fort Collins, Colorado... we sell gyros (donner kabobs) to (mostly) drunk (mostly) college age people prowling the local pub neighborhood. There are about 21 pubs in a 4 block area in Old Town Ft Collins...

Anyway, I've seen these things in action, up close. We had a riot when the state hockey team, Avalanche won the Stanly Cup a couple of years back. It was kind of raging all around my cart, but my customers were all being cuccumber cool... weird and hard to believe, but it's true. Regardless of the freakishly civil behaviour of everyone I could see in line at the cart, we got targetted with a cannister of tear gas. It was ****ty: I had to throw away the food I'd been cooking while I was blind, then explain to the adrenalin cooked cops that I was one of the downtown merchants that they were protecting before they could beat me up with one of those "non-lethal" batons. Luckily one of the cops recognized me.

About four months ago, a dozen or so over-grown school children were having a fist fight in the middle of my line. I tried to break it up, but there was just too much momentum to it all by the time I figured out what was happening. I called the police, who showed up in less than 1 minute. They came running into the fray firing tippmann prolites one handed as they ran. they hit one of the pugilists and one innocent bystander. These two people were out of commission immediately. Most of the other guys who were fighting took off running, pursued by police trying to shoot a paintball marker with one hand. It would have been funny if it hadn't made me so nervous to se little puffs of pepper spray all over the place.

Still, the cannister sent everyone running, while the pepper spray balls only really seemed to affect people who were actually hit with them or people in contact with those who were hit directly.
First time that a lot of people had seen a paintball marker maybe, but I don't think anyone present in this instance would be put off if they weren't already. It was clear that there was pepper spray in those things, not paint.