UK vs. US

[gaff]

UK tournament organisers put their cash and time on the line to make a profit (as do all tournament organisers worldwide!and so they should!) but the difference bertween the UK and the US is in my opionion as follows:

in the US there are two, maybe three, or possibly even four major leagues to play in (in my opinion there is only really two, NPPL and PSP, but thats just my feelings) over here in the UK we have between 6 or 7 tournament series to choose between (yes most AM or Nov teams have to choose one of them only due to cost!)

we have a player pool of probably 10% of what the US does but we have more tournament series????? if all of the organisers got together 'a la' Millennium and set up a national tournament series (one of them only!!) with Pro, Div 1, Div2 and Div 3 if enough teams, they could get better industry support, attract more teams, attract foreign teams possibly (euros maybe!) and in turn and as a direct result of the higher profile, greater industry support and ability to scale charges to playing standards, offer better and worthy prizes for the outlay! thus attracting more teams trying for that prize fund.

 

[Mario]

Originally posted by gaff
if all of the organisers got together 'a la' Millennium and set up a national tournament series (one of them only!!) with Pro, Div 1, Div2 and Div 3 if enough teams, they could get better industry support, attract more teams, attract foreign teams possibly (euros maybe!) and in turn and as a direct result of the higher profile, greater industry support and ability to scale charges to playing standards, offer better and worthy prizes for the outlay! thus attracting more teams trying for that prize fund.

lol that'll be the day

 

[MrPink]

I'm curious - why do people want larger fields?

I get to train almost exclusively on an X-Ball field, and much prefer the In-your-face games that these fields promote. Games are over in seconds sometimes and you get to really go for it with run-thrus, fast snake crawls etc.

Larger fields means more time flinging paint and less time celebrating victory!

Also - the D7's and PA league use the Millennium size field, why play on a different size?

 

[ANDY-501]

well put pinky ! its about time we stopped playing old school British tournament paintball ie. sitting behind a barricade at the back of the field and lobbing paint at your mirror for 7 minutes !

This style of play has held us back for too long ! Bring on the smaller aggressive type fields and watch your paint bills fall !!!

 

[Steve Hancock]

Originally posted by gaff
in the US there are two, maybe three, or possibly even four major leagues to play in (in my opinion there is only really two, NPPL and PSP, but thats just my feelings) over here in the UK we have between 6 or 7 tournament series to choose between (yes most AM or Nov teams have to choose one of them only due to cost!)

we have a player pool of probably 10% of what the US does but we have more tournament series????? if all of the organisers got together 'a la' Millennium and set up a national tournament series (one of them only!!) with Pro, Div 1, Div2 and Div 3 if enough teams, they could get better industry support, attract more teams, attract foreign teams possibly (euros maybe!) and in turn and as a direct result of the higher profile, greater industry support and ability to scale charges to playing standards, offer better and worthy prizes for the outlay! thus attracting more teams trying for that prize fund.

Have a look at the link avidfan posted, it shows that most of the american states has a comparible number of tournaments to what we have here in the uk.

The major leagues you mentioned like nppl is comparible to the millenium series here in europe. Think of each individual state and it's tourney scene as comparible to the individual countries within europe and there scenes. Neither the state scenes nor the euro-country local scenes are major leagues, and don't have that level of prize money.

A more realistic comparison than UK v. US, would be US v. Europe.

 

[Hatts]

Originally posted by ANDY-501
well put pinky ! its about time we stopped playing old school British tournament paintball ie. sitting behind a barricade at the back of the field and lobbing paint at your mirror for 7 minutes !

This style of play has held us back for too long ! Bring on the smaller aggressive type fields and watch your paint bills fall !!!

For interest value, in the Paintball Association League the average game time is less than 3minutes 30 seconds...and that's the same in each division. From 180 games in round 2 only 1 went to time. Less than 5% went to 6 minutes...

I don't think people do sit & chuck paint any more. Also it's a myth that division 1 games played by the (so called) pro's run faster than the games played by the less experienced teams in Division 4.

It's been noticed as well that the standard of games has improved dramatically as teams are no longer competeing for a tin cup & bragging rights which is forgotten about by the following Tuesday but are now fighting for promotion...or to avoid relegation. As a result teams are training harder, better & more often...and it shows.

 

[Robbo]

Originally posted by gaff


we have a player pool of probably 10% of what the US does but we have more tournament series????? if all of the organisers got together 'a la' Millennium and set up a national tournament series (one of them only!!) with Pro, Div 1, Div2 and Div 3 if enough teams, they could get better industry support, attract more teams, attract foreign teams possibly (euros maybe!) and in turn and as a direct result of the higher profile, greater industry support and ability to scale charges to playing standards, offer better and worthy prizes for the outlay! thus attracting more teams trying for that prize fund.

Gaff, I think I might revise that 10% figure to something like 0.1% if I were u mate. They got more players attend a Saturday afternoon session at SC Village than we get over here in England

 

[beasty1711]

Originally posted by Robbo
And Beasty1711, sponsor packages are not the reason the Yanks are better than us.

i appreciate that... but for example... if team X had all their paint, entrance fees etc paid for by sponsors then they would be more likely to enter more comps... which in turn relates to more experience/ games.... which would then lead to more successes??

I maybe missing something completely but surly it would help?

 

[beasty1711]

Originally posted by beasty1711
i appreciate that... but for example... if team X had all their paint, entrance fees etc paid for by sponsors then they would be more likely to enter more comps... which in turn relates to more experience/ games.... which would then lead to more successes??

I maybe missing something completely but surly it would help?

or am i just trying to think of it being too straigh forward?

 

[vanillagorilla]

ok for real i got 1 thing to say STOP CRYING LIKE A LITTLE GIRL!! man you cry about prizes, give me a break. dude look at what you guys get to play on. nice grass fields, 4500 fills, your choice of paint. play some local stuff in da states ya get rocks, roots, sh**ty paint prices, dirt n dust, and mud. look dude in the states it's pretty easy to play a local event and win some cash or prizes. but look we give up a good bit. our fields are ruff. try sliding in on gravel and rock hard dirt not nice.
as for the thing of oh da euro ballers can't beat da US ballers. give it up. are you guys forgetting ya got some killer teams. Joy, Nexus Ton Tons all real good team. i'm sure it won't be long before they all win.
as for uk ballers crying "oh the US has a bigger players pool". just stop i mean it's all up to you. ya wanna win? stop posting nonsense here and go play!!