The Rumour Mill

[Fisz]

I've never met Mr Molyneux but I know several people who did and they all react to his name being mentioned the same way as Robbo.

 

[Robbo]

I've never met Mr Molyneux but I know several people who did and they all react to his name being mentioned the same way as Robbo.

It would seem then that mr molyneux no doubt possesses at least one redemptive quality, that of consistency ...

 

[nooby_noob]

I think that's a little unfair, and here's why;

Richmond engineered the departure of several key paint production staff, all at the same time, from Procaps, to GI Milsim. This directly affected the ability of procaps to make paint, at least good paint.
At this point, the new CEO made a harsh, but in my opinion, utterly necessary decision, to cut all other people with close ties to Richmond/GI Milsiim, as he believed that these people were just counting the days, and gathering intel for Richmond, before joining him themselves. In fact, this has eventually bcome the case in almost every example.
In other words, he was right.

Now, I'm no fan of the guy, and have never met him, but he made a difficult business decision, at a difficult time, and it proved (at least in my eye's, and at least in this case) to actually be the right one.

The loss of the traditional business is another matter. Strike another blow for KEE I guess. Does everyone think thats a good thing for the industry? I don't.


Look for Procaps to be sold by Christmas (Dec 31st)

Missy,

I guess it might seem that way from an outsiders view but let me enlighten you on a few points that may make it seem at little different. Of course I am in a position to do this as I have extensive knowledge of all that transpired.

Firstly let me assure you that everyone who was a key player in the company also had 1or 2 year non-competes in their contracts. So anyone who left was in a bad financial position.

Now to show a side of Molyneux that I have seen but perhaps others have not....

It was well known that Richmond wasn't happy with the way in which the company was being run and as a shareholder, true to Richmond’s nature, he spoke directly with Rob and told him his feelings. That’s one thing about Richmond - he tells you to your face, good or bad. He even told him that he was going to ask for a vote of no confidence at a forthcoming board meeting.

The very next morning Richmond’s cousin, who was heading up worldwide sales, was fired by Rob personally with no reason or warning. He was also told by Rob to remind Richmond what family was all about. It was clear that it was a warning shot to Richmond. I should add that the cousin was not a board member and could not have influenced any vote against Rob. He was just a very easy and personal target to pick.

That was the day that Richmond decided that he was fed up with his friends being treated like sh!t and now that their lively hoods were being threatened, he decided to start the new company as soon as he was legally able to.

I'd agree that GI Sportz looks familiar in respect of some people that are working there but if Rob hadn't fired them they would not have necessarily left. They may not have joined GI with the hatred for Rob and the drive to want to put the guy out of business. Was Richmond smart in seeing and exploiting this, whilst at the same time offering them, his friends, assistance. Of course he was but was he guilty of anything – no.

There are also still people that are working at Procaps that I am sure would be beneficial to the new company – but yet they stay and no, they are not intelligence plants.

So GI Sportz you say is an orchestration – agreed in part, but only because the original conductor was creating an inharmonious din with his wind section.

 

[Missy-Q]

Missy,

I guess it might seem that way from an outsiders view but let me enlighten you on a few points that may make it seem at little different. Of course I am in a position to do this as I have extensive knowledge of all that transpired.

Firstly let me assure you that everyone who was a key player in the company also had 1or 2 year non-competes in their contracts. So anyone who left was in a bad financial position.

Now to show a side of Molyneux that I have seen but perhaps others have not....

It was well known that Richmond wasn't happy with the way in which the company was being run and as a shareholder, true to Richmond’s nature, he spoke directly with Rob and told him his feelings. That’s one thing about Richmond - he tells you to your face, good or bad. He even told him that he was going to ask for a vote of no confidence at a forthcoming board meeting.

The very next morning Richmond’s cousin, who was heading up worldwide sales, was fired by Rob personally with no reason or warning. He was also told by Rob to remind Richmond what family was all about. It was clear that it was a warning shot to Richmond. I should add that the cousin was not a board member and could not have influenced any vote against Rob. He was just a very easy and personal target to pick.

That was the day that Richmond decided that he was fed up with his friends being treated like sh!t and now that their lively hoods were being threatened, he decided to start the new company as soon as he was legally able to.

I'd agree that GI Sportz looks familiar in respect of some people that are working there but if Rob hadn't fired them they would not have necessarily left. They may not have joined GI with the hatred for Rob and the drive to want to put the guy out of business. Was Richmond smart in seeing and exploiting this, whilst at the same time offering them, his friends, assistance. Of course he was but was he guilty of anything – no.

There are also still people that are working at Procaps that I am sure would be beneficial to the new company – but yet they stay and no, they are not intelligence plants.

So GI Sportz you say is an orchestration – agreed in part, but only because the original conductor was creating an inharmonious din with his wind section.

Thanks for the insight.

 

[Robbo]

Missy,

I guess it might seem that way from an outsiders view but let me enlighten you on a few points that may make it seem at little different. Of course I am in a position to do this as I have extensive knowledge of all that transpired.

Firstly let me assure you that everyone who was a key player in the company also had 1or 2 year non-competes in their contracts. So anyone who left was in a bad financial position.

Now to show a side of Molyneux that I have seen but perhaps others have not....

It was well known that Richmond wasn't happy with the way in which the company was being run and as a shareholder, true to Richmond’s nature, he spoke directly with Rob and told him his feelings. That’s one thing about Richmond - he tells you to your face, good or bad. He even told him that he was going to ask for a vote of no confidence at a forthcoming board meeting.

The very next morning Richmond’s cousin, who was heading up worldwide sales, was fired by Rob personally with no reason or warning. He was also told by Rob to remind Richmond what family was all about. It was clear that it was a warning shot to Richmond. I should add that the cousin was not a board member and could not have influenced any vote against Rob. He was just a very easy and personal target to pick.

That was the day that Richmond decided that he was fed up with his friends being treated like sh!t and now that their lively hoods were being threatened, he decided to start the new company as soon as he was legally able to.

I'd agree that GI Sportz looks familiar in respect of some people that are working there but if Rob hadn't fired them they would not have necessarily left. They may not have joined GI with the hatred for Rob and the drive to want to put the guy out of business. Was Richmond smart in seeing and exploiting this, whilst at the same time offering them, his friends, assistance. Of course he was but was he guilty of anything – no.

There are also still people that are working at Procaps that I am sure would be beneficial to the new company – but yet they stay and no, they are not intelligence plants.

So GI Sportz you say is an orchestration – agreed in part, but only because the original conductor was creating an inharmonious din with his wind section.

...seems to me if they indeed were 'lively hoods' then being threatened wouldn't have phased them one bit ....


And as for your last sentence, you been saving that up for years haven't you

 

[Missy-Q]

I don't get it though.
Dave from Essex, who recently got into paintball, and doesn't know that paintball is also played on inflatable fields, and not just in the woods (I'm talking about you here 'Nooby'), has made just 5 posts. All (except for the original intro whereby he introduced himself as above) have been directly relating to Procaps threads.

So, either Dave's not Dave at all, and he's someone else (which would technically make him a 'liar' I guess)
Or, he's actually Dave from Essex, with no experience in paintball, which would mean there's no way the info above could realistically be accurate, which, quid-pro-quo, unfortunately also makes him a 'liar'.

So either way, he's less than truthful, in which case, can the info he provides be considered trustworthy?

I'm just a full-size sister from the 'hood, but can see from here that Dave from Essex has an agenda.

I think you need to come-clean Dave, I really do. If you wish to be taken seriously, at least by me.

 

[Robbo]

Missy, I think I know who Dave is and it's not so much he's lying in terms of deliberately misleading people as to his real name but I think it's a politically sensitive issue if he does reveal his true identity [and 'No', it's not Richmond, you have my word on that, and the post wasn't orchestrated by him either]

However, the truth of Nooby's statements re Procaps can be trusted implicitly and I think at times like this, you can keep pushing in an attempt to try and get him to decloak and all you will achieve is him clamming up and we lose a valuable insider resource ... I think it's a case of a lesser of evils here; I'd rather keep informational channels open and Nooby maintain his true identity as against everybody knowing who he is and there being no information coming out ....... but as far as you're concerned Missy, you can take this source seriously leastwise in trusting his statements and opinions .... you quite rightly mention the possibility of an agenda being indulged and I would doubt there's many people connected with Procaps who wouldn't have an agenda with molyneux after some of the things I have heard about him .... I think in cases like this, molyneux's actions and attitude will have cultivated a whole slew of aggrieved individuals just waiting to get their own back in some way, that's life I'm afraid Missy ...... a classic example of what goes around comes around .....

 

[nooby_noob]

Missy that's a bit rich but I see your humour. However Pete has vouched for who I am and my expertise on the subject. I know that you now know who I am as well and I'm sure you can understand my reasoning.

I stay cloaked not for fear of comeback upon me but because I fear for what may happen to those around me because of what I might write. So Pete has hit the nail on the head regarding the sensitivity of my position.

The real truth is if I uncloak publically then Mr Molyneux will know that I am still hidden in the depths of his organisation selling secrets to the east and at the moment he's left the packaging department alone.

However you are right - I do have an agenda - I wanted to put the real story across nothing more sinister than that. You'd also be right in saying I have a vendetta against him, however in my opinion, he is only getting a miniscule portion of what he truly deserves.

If you choose to accept what I say as being fact or not is irrelevant - but what you said in your post is completely untrue and I felt it needed to be put right.

Anyway hit me up on skype when you can.

 

[Robbo]

Hmmmmm, vendetta????
Nooby, I suppose it's kinda inevitable that anybody who has been in this industry of ours for more than a few years is gonna end up being dicked over by somebody.
Our industry merely reflects society and so I suppose we shouldn't be surprised when people like molyneux strut their stuff although we'd like to think betrayal of any kind is restricted to 'other' people's experiences, not ours.
I know what this low-life tried to do to you and thankfully commonsense prevailed in the end as against what he would have wanted .....I understand your need to balance things out mate, it's fate's way of imposing karma on the world with the bad guys getting what's due.
Good luck in this quest and hopefully people like molyneux and his kind will be short-lived in this industry.

 

[Spike]

Wow they lost Walmart - that sucks but personally pleasing at the same time