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SteveD

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if people were thinking properly, they would recognize that officiating is an EXPENSE item, and the motivating strategy is not to increase profit, but to concentrate on REDUCING COST.

Leagues should get their profit from marketing.

The necessary components to hosting a league are all expense items and someone ought to be going over each and every one to shave pennies; bring the wing house on as a sponsor - cost of admittance - feed my reffing crew. hotel - house my reffing crew. clothing mfg, clothe my crew. Goggle mfg - mask my crew.
 

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Come on guys - you are hinting at the NPPL having alterior motives that lay beyond what other organisations have - in terms of reffing.

I don't think that is quite fair.

EVERY organisation in paintball has problems with the reffing, because none of them spend the money and energy needed.

Nick
 

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The reason I think Ron is the answer is as follows.

He runs 6 teams now, well, and he rules them with an iron hand, though he is universally respected.

He know the rules inside and out, he knows the players inside and out.

He can inspire better reffing through his own actions, and the actions of a self-picked crew of people. He has been in the game for 17 years and knows the people he needs already.

He knows he can do it, and make a difference.

He requires no training whatsoever.

He is based in SoCal, has his own feilds, compressers etc, and already sets up 6 team practices weekly, which provides a weekly training platform 12 months a year.

I don't know of anyone more qualified.

Re. ref sharing between leagues. Its a great idea of course. NPPL refs already ref the PSP - including Dan Perez. Boogie has also reffed several NPPL events.

Then again - if we end up with one legitimate league by the end of the year, the solution may just present itself.....

Chicago - you don't miss a single opportunity to be a dick, do you. Loco is the conspiracy theorist, and he does a good job of it. You just come across as a twat with a bogus agenda. If you are hoping to fill the cows' shoes you are doing a terrible job of it. You are simply not informed enough to pull it off.

Ref rating has already been discussed with a veiw to implementing a bonus scheme for the next event. I think I mentioned that in my first post.
 

SteveD

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Chicago,

I think you missed the train. SOME people ARE starting to think logically in this industry and I expect to see the results sometime later on this year.

Missy,

Ron is so up-front its not even funny. He was on board with the first NPPL rulebook, and had a great deal of fun poking holes in some of the rules with his stated strategies for taking advantage of them. I can't think of a thing that's gotten past him on the fields since '93; he might not have been able to do anything about it, but he sure as heck knew what was happening.

The only issue with Ron K is, as you pointed out, his team affiliations. Perhaps he could be persuaded to 'sell' them to someone...
 

Baca Loco

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Not exactly what I expected, but okay. Another referendum of reffing. Even I'm getting bored with these.:)

One legitimate league by the end of the year, eh, Missy? That might just be one more than we have now. :rolleyes:

No offense, Whale, but if you know what the World Pball Association is supposed to herald then at least some of the other peeps I talked to must as well and played ignorant, or was that, innocent?

And, dissent, lest you think I was complaining about the officiating, I wasn't. I was offering an opinion on its quality that I was confident would be shared in many quarters. I never "complain" about the reffing because that would imply that I and my team blame somebody else for our deficiencies and I don't do that--even when it's merited.:)

Missy--the real issue remains training and execution. I imagine Ron might do very well at creating some esprit de corps among the refs which would help with retention but despite the fact I have harped on the issue repeatedly in the past little of any consequence has been done to date to address the training and on field execution (not only the calls but how the refs coordinate and communicate and prep a field to be officiated.) Too often the crews ref like D3 teams play. [No offense to D3 teams but it's D3 for a reason.] Granted I haven't seen or attended one of Tim's PSP classes but I have seen NPPL classes in the past and to be kind I wasn't terribly impressed. But I'm critical by nature.:D
 

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One legitimate league by the end of the year, eh, Missy? That might just be one more than we have now. :rolleyes:


Oh, sorry, forgot to call you a twat...

some one please tell me how to use these new quote things properly - I'm all over the place...
 

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Nick Brockdorff said:
Come on guys - you are hinting at the NPPL having alterior motives that lay beyond what other organisations have - in terms of reffing.
My mostly sarcastic replies to Steve were a comment on the industry mentality in general - not limited to reffing and not limited to NPPL. It's the same mentality that leads paintball companies to try and own TV shows when they are really quite bad at TV.