Take me down to tha Taliban City

[Tyger]

Originally posted by headrock6

But your right!!Maybe if someone from there would post and shed their side of the story maybe we can see where thier frames of mind where when coming up with this brilliant idea..We shall see...

[cynic mode]

Probably the same way that most other good paintball ideas were born. Over some beers, and a "Hey, wouldn't it be cool to have a field so we can shoot the taliban guys?" Now if they would have just called it something else, we wouldn't even have this conversation.

[/cynic mode]

Thing is that I'm waching the X-games right now. Some guy just ripped up his shoulder trying a handplant on the street course, fell over 20 feet onto his shoulder. And as I'm watching this, the only thing I can think of is "Yeah, paintball will be taken seriously as a sport as long as this kind of thing goes on."

We're all in this together.

-Tyger

 

[ices]

poor lad guess he should be hit by little green balls most of the time instead of muckin up his shoulder....oucha!!

I have never been to SC but it does operate to get money in so it can keep the site as good as you all say it is.
Really to get good money you have to live off peoples imagination and fulfilling this is a crowd pleaser.

I dont really think SC shoulda used Taliban city as a theme but the taliban didnt destroy your towers guys, osama and his terror network did.
Do you think they woulda used Osama kill fest?
Do you think SC could of used that theme? Yes.
Why didnt they use it?

Coz it may stir up bad taste, really if they saw this as bad taste would they of gone to the press with this?

 

[PGI's Chris Iaquinta]

Hey Hey hey

Jesus, I go to Atlantic City for 5 days, come back and receive an email from Ant telling me to check the forum. Well, surprise surprise. Yes, I did know about the Taliban City field. SC Village likes to give players that they want, and SC believed that they needed something to direct their anger/feelings/emotions towards a game against the "Taliban" on one of their fields. Honestly, how is this field any different from the fields called Vietnam (where many more US people died than 9-11), Bosnia and Iraq, which were built just a few years ago to no opposition from the paintball community. The differnce is that 9-11 hit us personally because it happened on American soil, thats why people are getting pissed off about this new field. America hasn't been attacked on our main land ever, the closet thing was Pearl Harbor.
Keep in mind, SC Village has a theme, war fields. Russia, Germany, Laos, Vietnam, Iraq, Beruit, Bosinia. Why is there no opposition against those fields? I do believe that it is a little too soon to release that field, but calling the field Taliban City or even "Afganistan" is the same as the other fields. No difference. All the fields are based and name after country's and groups that we have fought at some point in the past. 9-11 was a tragedy, but so was vietnam, WW2, Korean War, yet those fields also exist, but no one cares about them. Taliban City was not designed to bring out more misery about 9-11. The Taliban and Osama Bin Laden have been causing the US pain for years now, and if SC came out with this field two years ago people wouldn't care. Now 9-11 has happened, but those group of people still exist in the same way. The field is based off of the Taliban, not the world trade towers, not 9-11.
Chris
ps. If SC declared a shoot Sadam Hussein day, would it be the same as shoot Osama day? Which one would you be complaining about? We all now the majority could care less about Sadam. He is an enemy of the US, just like the Taliban, just like Osama Bin Laden. The field was built to show people that in at least some form (Paintball games), anyone can stand against the most hated group of people in the world. It might of come too soon, but it is definately not meant to disrespect the victims of 9-11. Thanks Guys
Chris

 

[the_vodka_kid]

we say we are trying to get the sport away from ........little boys running round the woods playing war. and then a big player comes out with somthing like this...it seems a little distasteful at best. i have a hard enough time trying to tell ppl what p8ball is all about without this sort of stuff. it shocks me that what ppl have done to get away from is now coming back.

 

[Buddha 3]

Originally posted by the_vodka_kid
we say we are trying to get the sport away from ........little boys running round the woods playing war. and then a big player comes out with somthing like this...it seems a little distasteful at best. i have a hard enough time trying to tell ppl what p8ball is all about without this sort of stuff. it shocks me that what ppl have done to get away from is now coming back.

Reality check!

You, me, most people on this forum are saying that we are trying to get the sport away from "little boys running round the woods playing war". But I'd like to inform you that the immensely vast majority of paintballers enjoys doing just that! And guess what? They are the ones that bring in the funds that allow us to strut our stuff on the tourney fields. Not only that, but the main reason that people try out paintball for the first time as a bunch of rentals, is because the notion of crawling around in cammies amongst some blown up buildings appeals to them. They all want to be heroes for a day. Plain and simple.

I can see how this field might strike a little close to home when a person is from the NY area, or even from the US, but I agree with Chris when he says that this field is no different from any others.
Shoot Saddam day may be fun, because it's far away, but it isn't for the thousands of women raped by the Iraqi troops in Kuwait, or the thousands of civilians murdered by Iraq. Same thing really. World war two has, despite the fact that it ended nearly sixty years ago, made a far greater impact on the people of western Europe than 9-11 did. Yes, we were shocked to see the towers come down, and we couldn't believe our eyes. But 5 years of some of the most brutal oppression in recent history leaves it's mark on a countries cultural, cognitive and collective identity.
So either complain about all the themed fields, or don't complain at all.

 

[the_vodka_kid]

yes...i do hate all the war like fields and so do many of my team mates......its a sport. i went to the docs last week beacause ive got smashed up knees playing ball he says "oh you like playing war do you". its not the fact that its one field i hate,its all fields of that genre, if you read between the lines you could see that. Im a shinny guns and colourful tops baller, not a camo and rambo.the public think we play war beacause of what we call are games and what we say...could you see like BMW coming in as a big sponser when the public thoughts are such.

 

[Buddha 3]

Originally posted by the_vodka_kid
yes...i do hate all the war like fields and so do many of my team mates......its a sport. i went to the docs last week beacause ive got smashed up knees playing ball he says "oh you like playing war do you". its not the fact that its one field i hate,its all fields of that genre, if you read between the lines you could see that. Im a shinny guns and colourful tops baller, not a camo and rambo.the public think we play war beacause of what we call are games and what we say...could you see like BMW coming in as a big sponser when the public thoughts are such.

Don't get me wrong, that's the way I represent paintball as well. But we have to face facts, and realise that something like 90% (if not more) of paintballers do enjoy the camo scene. So when you think about it, which do you reckon is the real face of paintball?
I'm not saying that the blown up building fields are the way to go, I'm just shedding some light on things from a different angle. Just like Rancid does, only with less curse words.

 

[the_vodka_kid]

yes im with you there, most punters like to dress up in camo.But to call games nam village and korea will do the sport no favours.i marshall at a site and we have no games named after battles or wars. football in the 1700s in england was a good excuse for two villages to get to gether and have a fight, hell ppl even died playing it.....but if it had not moved on would we have the great game that we have to day.

 

[Baca Loco]

Uh, Chris

Originally posted by PGI's Chris Iaquinta
America hasn't been attacked on our main land ever, the closet thing was Pearl Harbor.

The field was built to show people that in at least some form (Paintball games), anyone can stand against the most hated group of people in the world.

There was that little war of 1812 wherein the Brits sacked Washington, among other things--tho of course it doesn't count what with being sooo loong ago and all.

So did SC also hire a bunch of ZZ Top look-alikes to stand in for the Taliban?

 

[TJ Lambini]

I can hear it blaring over tha speakers now

Drive every girl crazy he's a sharp-dressed Taliban...