Staining paint and the Mil Series

[Baca Loco]

Yes, this has been discussed somewhat in a number of recent threads but all those threads have lots of other things going on as well and I thought it might be useful to single out some issues so it's clear to everyone without wading through dozens of unrelated posts.

Aparently the Mil Series, in attempting to control staining paint, has decided to further regulate the player. Already the players must only use Series or event sponsors paint and now the idea is to restrict that to must purchase on site sponsors paint.

But just how does this help reduce the use of staining paint? Isn't it the manufacturers who are responsible for whats in their paint? Does the Mil Series expect the paint producers to make unique product for their events alone? Or do they expect the paint produced generally to conform to requirements of the Series? Either way what have the players got to do with it?

The NPPL has extensive rules on staining paint which are routinely ignored by everyone if Miami is any indication. What's the NPPL gonna do--get tough with big sponsors and risk losing the green? Doesn't same situation apply to Millennium?

Seems to me the only thing placing further demands on the players does is assure additional site sales to the paint sponsors who are paying big for the privilege to be there.

 

[Piper]

Originally posted by Baca Loco

But just how does this help reduce the use of staining paint? Isn't it the manufacturers who are responsible for whats in their paint? Does the Mil Series expect the paint producers to make unique product for their events alone? Or do they expect the paint produced generally to conform to requirements of the Series? Either way what have the players got to do with it?

Are you a mind reader? I was having this very same conversation with someone earlier! Scary!

Ok have to agree mate, seems to me the player has nothing to with this whole argument but yet again the player is the one punished. Sometimes I think the Millennium Series forget the fact that without the player they have no series, and were will that get us?

Piper

 

[TJ Lambini]

S****horpe?

So, if a team wants to shoot Doctor Spock's Amazing Non-Stain paint, they can't cos Dr Spock's don't sponsor tha Mill Series, right?

So then it's not about staining paint at all, is it?

 

[Piper]

Make a sentence from the following words



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Piper

 

[TJ Lambini]

Head The Nail On The Hit?

Dude, that is some deep Zen ****. I'm gonna have to go and meditate on it for a few hours. Later.

 

[Robbo]

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
Head The Nail On The Hit?

Dude, that is some deep Zen ****. I'm gonna have to go and meditate on it for a few hours. Later.

Hit Nial on the head ?

Oops I meant Nail, sorry Nial..... a Freudian slip

 

[NIALL]

Ouch!! that hurt!


Pipes, When the board gets round to talking about the EPA you will be made welcome. We still have at least one meeting to go!! We are extremely aware that players are customers and don't intend to shortchange anyone. If people don't like what is on offer at the M/Sthey wont attend. We are trying to get better. More prizes, better reffing, better venues , for what is still a very reasonable entry. As for Id cards..I aint going there mate same argument same answers.

TJ. Two different problems doode Unhappy sponsors and unhappy venues!!

Baca, You are right in what you say. We have to make the Paint manufacturers responsible for the products we shoot. Its policing it that is the problem, but we are totally open to suggestions into how we can make sure we don't lose any more venues down to the shortsightedness of some manufacturers.


Niall

 

[Piper]

QUOTE]Originally posted by NIALL
Ouch!! that hurt!


Pipes, When the board gets round to talking about the EPA you will be made welcome. We still have at least one meeting to go!! We are extremely aware that players are customers and don't intend to shortchange anyone. If people don't like what is on offer at the M/Sthey wont attend. We are trying to get better. More prizes, better reffing, better venues , for what is still a very reasonable entry. As for Id cards..I aint going there mate same argument same answers.

Niall [/QUOTE]

Niall

Forgive me if I am wrong but the EPA was supposed to help you come up with new ideas for this year. It has nothing to do with the Millennium Board talking about the EPA. You say you are all for the idea yet at the first hurdle the door is closed to us!

Still one more meeting to go. Are you kidding me? What have you been doing in the last 2 meetings that lasted for 2 days each? On second thoughts don't answer that.

So is the last meeting dedicated to the EPA? Or are you going to have a meeting about the EPA then hold another meeting letting the EPA come in and help with new ideas?

Piper

 

[Wadidiz]

Dear Paintball Manufacturer,

Staining paintballs have become more and more of an issue in recent times due to the move to fancier venues and increased spectator attendance.

For obvious reasons all the major paintball leagues are requiring that athletes who attend our events not use paintballs that cause staining of clothing or any of the fixtures at the venues.

Therefore we request that you list which of your products you can guarantee pass the attached stain test. If necessary please inform us which batch numbers we can begin to count on as being non-staining.

Thank you in advance for you prompt reply and for your support for the betterment of our sport.

Best regards,

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Millennium Series

 

[Robbo]

Yo Fat Ass, listen up
I think it matters not what the EPA is 'supposed' to do at this stage, it can claim as its remit anything it likes but unless the Millennium board sanctions that representation, then it is all academic.

Basically, if the EPA is to have any teeth, the teeth have to be accepted by the very people who will be bitten

A harsh fact of life me ole mate but....with the degree of support you guys have got, I don't think the board will deny you but chronology is against ya mate, they have to validate you first and then and only then can you have some representation to the board...leastwise that's how I understood the situation.