So how long you gonna fcuk about for then?
- Thread starter Mak D - Nexus Eclipse
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Nice to see the Yanks take a Spanking for once.
But
Will it effect the majority of Euro or American Teams?....I think not. X-Ball is where the action is at the moment, 10-Man, 7-Man & good 'ol 5-Man have been pushed to the side and have been relegated to be the 'fringe' entertainment at most of the big events even though this is where most of us 'ply our trade'.
As Mak says, to get on the shirt-tails of the RL and attempt to emulate what they have achieved is gonna take money......lots of money but to play X-Ball, either here or in the US, already requires a huge investment, both financial and time. So, that, in itself, rules out about 95% of teams.
The fact that the RL went across the pond and spanked-the-yanks in their own back-yard will only effect the Teams that are already at the pinnicle of our Sport, teams like Joy, Nexus, Tigers and their American counterparts. They are the only ones that can afford to make a difference. The normal run-of-the-mill Teams will carry on as before. Sure, we can train a bit more, give it a little more effort but in the long run I can't see it making much of a difference.
Yeah, I know all about that 'If you don't aspire to anything, bla, bla, bla' but its a closed market. The Paintball Companies are 'sponsored out'. All the top teams have cornered the market and now the cupboard is empty. So, unless you have a few spare mill's lying about doing nothing, I'm afraid its business as usual.
Congrats to the RL.
But
Will it effect the majority of Euro or American Teams?....I think not. X-Ball is where the action is at the moment, 10-Man, 7-Man & good 'ol 5-Man have been pushed to the side and have been relegated to be the 'fringe' entertainment at most of the big events even though this is where most of us 'ply our trade'.
As Mak says, to get on the shirt-tails of the RL and attempt to emulate what they have achieved is gonna take money......lots of money but to play X-Ball, either here or in the US, already requires a huge investment, both financial and time. So, that, in itself, rules out about 95% of teams.
The fact that the RL went across the pond and spanked-the-yanks in their own back-yard will only effect the Teams that are already at the pinnicle of our Sport, teams like Joy, Nexus, Tigers and their American counterparts. They are the only ones that can afford to make a difference. The normal run-of-the-mill Teams will carry on as before. Sure, we can train a bit more, give it a little more effort but in the long run I can't see it making much of a difference.
Yeah, I know all about that 'If you don't aspire to anything, bla, bla, bla' but its a closed market. The Paintball Companies are 'sponsored out'. All the top teams have cornered the market and now the cupboard is empty. So, unless you have a few spare mill's lying about doing nothing, I'm afraid its business as usual.
Congrats to the RL.
Afford to make a difference? How much you think Nexus practise? once a week? Afford to do more? Pay for gym membership, nutritionalists, train physically everyday?...all while their players keep their day jobs and don't knacker themselves out? If the US teams suddenly became as backed as Russian Legion, the true-pro league would be suicide for any euro team to enter, bar russians, if you consider them euro...
Ive drilled till ive dropped and can confidently say I have a pretty fcuking good shoot and move.........but 2 take 2 dynabots off the break, everygame, consistantly and make teams like infamous look like fools....is more than good and takes more than alot of practise...
Ive drilled till ive dropped and can confidently say I have a pretty fcuking good shoot and move.........but 2 take 2 dynabots off the break, everygame, consistantly and make teams like infamous look like fools....is more than good and takes more than alot of practise...
I'm afraid, the Russkies are the only Euros who can compete with the top Yanks, a sad of fact of life but it is true.
We had a limited success and are a$$hole lucky in that the sponsor package we get allows us to train and play with little if no expense, I don't think there are too many teams in Europe apart from the Russkies who get anywhere near that, except maybe Joy and that is all (not sure what the Ton Tons are up to at the moment)
So, if we got trouble in competing, u can bet your bottom dollar the rest of us Euros are gonna have some real difficulties.
There are areas we can work on where we can compete and maybe take the lead if we apply ourselves and these are personal fitness training and this takes no money, just commitment and dedication.
We can also concentrate on innovation in refining of existing techniques or even new ones, we can think about organsiation, tactical preparation and so on but in the end, available time off work and money will have its say, how much of a say is down to us.
We had a limited success and are a$$hole lucky in that the sponsor package we get allows us to train and play with little if no expense, I don't think there are too many teams in Europe apart from the Russkies who get anywhere near that, except maybe Joy and that is all (not sure what the Ton Tons are up to at the moment)
So, if we got trouble in competing, u can bet your bottom dollar the rest of us Euros are gonna have some real difficulties.
There are areas we can work on where we can compete and maybe take the lead if we apply ourselves and these are personal fitness training and this takes no money, just commitment and dedication.
We can also concentrate on innovation in refining of existing techniques or even new ones, we can think about organsiation, tactical preparation and so on but in the end, available time off work and money will have its say, how much of a say is down to us.
Yup. Points taken. But would you agree that to the majority of UK/Euro/US Teams, RL win in the USA will have no real impact? (apart from the smug satisfaction ) And that the top Euro Pro Teams such as yourselves and the likes of Joy are really the only ones in a position to try to achieve/build on what the Russians have started.
Cheers
Jimmy
) And that the top Euro Pro Teams such as yourselves and the likes of Joy are really the only ones in a position to try to achieve/build on what the Russians have started.Cheers
Jimmy
Assuming the Legion will continue to dominate at the events they play (and I hope they will, it's nice to see a fresh change), you can safely bet that it won't take too long until a good number of the US teams will get pretty damn pissed off. Americans are poor losers, which in itself is not a bad thing, and being consistently beaten at their own game will sting bad.
So I'd say that it won't take long until some brainiac over there will pick up on the idea and simulate the Legion's approach to the game.
The change won't be sudden, after all it'll take some time for people to change their attitudes towards their pastime, but it will happen. Eventually there will be another US team that's dominating this game, but you can bet your boots that they will be damn professional in their approach of the game.
And that is why I see the Legion's victory as a victory for paintball. If they keep this up, they might just be the catalyst that creates the professionalisation of paintball. They are forcing all pro teams to do the same.
JC Ofcourse the notion of the Legion winning having a huge impact on amateur teams is silly, I agree. Manchester United winning the FA cup has no effect on the way the Bumville Boys go about their footy matches either. I think most of us here are refering to the pro leagues around the world, rather than all paintball teams.
So I'd say that it won't take long until some brainiac over there will pick up on the idea and simulate the Legion's approach to the game.
The change won't be sudden, after all it'll take some time for people to change their attitudes towards their pastime, but it will happen. Eventually there will be another US team that's dominating this game, but you can bet your boots that they will be damn professional in their approach of the game.
And that is why I see the Legion's victory as a victory for paintball. If they keep this up, they might just be the catalyst that creates the professionalisation of paintball. They are forcing all pro teams to do the same.
JC Ofcourse the notion of the Legion winning having a huge impact on amateur teams is silly, I agree. Manchester United winning the FA cup has no effect on the way the Bumville Boys go about their footy matches either. I think most of us here are refering to the pro leagues around the world, rather than all paintball teams.
So Mak D, how much do you get paid to suck Sergeys nuts on this forum? Congrats to the Legion, but seriously, how many threads do you actually need to laugh at the Yanks because a foreign team won ONE event. Refresh my memory for me, when was the last time a limey team won Campaign? Maybe thats why they scheduled CC for the same weekend as LAs Vegas, to give the euros a chance on their own turf.
Russian Legion will probably win Campaign Cup.
One of the Yank teams will likely win Open X-ball.
Just to set the record strait, we set our dates for Campaign Cup months before the NPPL set their date. I think they had trouble finding an venue and this was the only date they could get.
I just wanted to clear that up, because somebody might actually take what GK wrote seriously... lol
One of the Yank teams will likely win Open X-ball.
Just to set the record strait, we set our dates for Campaign Cup months before the NPPL set their date. I think they had trouble finding an venue and this was the only date they could get.
I just wanted to clear that up, because somebody might actually take what GK wrote seriously... lol
I don't think anybody takes what I say seriously. If anybody does I would highly recommend a drug treatment program.
How do you beat a team? Better players.
Total domination of the paintball world?
They've won one American Xball event. They play in the lesser of the two dedicated Xball leagues, and won't even touch 7-man, which happens to be nine events.
They are one of the top Xball teams in the world. They may very well be the top Xball team in the world. But until they actually play Bob's boys, Trauma, and Philly; let's not be a schmuck and say they are.
Full-time? Dietitians? Physical trainers? Indoor facilities? Fat stacks of cash and gold to the ceiling? Forget about it. That stuff will all help, but we as players do not yet need it.
So what do you need? Lots of dedication and lots of paint. And I mean a lot of both.
All a team has to do is get the right players and provide them with a means to do so. In the end, this is simply what Sergei is doing. I'm not surprised his team has encountered such success; as far as I know, he is the only one willing to do this. How many other pro teams let inexperienced no-names practice with them?
It is just a shame that Russia is such a poor ecosystem for Americans.
Cheers.