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irons69

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WOO chill matski i am only trying to put a fare veiw across
and i can,t get the hell out of here as i am still stuck at home unable to drive:( :( :(
 

Steve Hancock

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Originally posted by Chris - Nexus Eclipse
whats to stop WDP doing what SP did and ****ting on everybody, now the run the NPPL and own the gun patents.....

....same old **** different day:mad:
- a track record of fair licensing,

- the fact that there patents are not out-ragously general,

- an understanding of P.R.,

- not having a track record of patent fraud,

- having seen what happened to S.P.,

- being decent guys....
 

QuackingPlums

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Originally posted by Flash-Bugout [edit - add] Actually, thinking about it, it probably just means that the chip is of the type that wll not accept any changes to the programming at all - things like dwell settings, RoFs would be stored in some form of ram type memory, and there is a slight battery drain to keep these settings stored.
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Hey Flash!

PIC microcontrollers, which most markers are built from use EEPROM, not volatile ram, for storing settings - you can certainly unplug the batteries for a long time (about 40 years apparently, but I haven't tested that) and have the settings stay put. ;)

Not sure what the patent would have required SP to do in order to comply with the ruling, but one option would be to set the code-protect bits... however, it is widely known that this is not foolproof.

Either way, it doesn't sound like a large amount of effort for the boys to carry on, business as usual.

I can think of at least one other manufacturer that does not protect their code in any way... :rolleyes:
 

Flash-Bugout

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Lo QP, What I was getting at (or at least trying to but not doing very well ;) was that IMHO, changing, for example the dwell setting, and that setting being stored in the eeprom, is the chip being reprogrammed, whereas having a "base" setting in the eeprom, then having to set up the dwell each time, and that being stored in a volatile chip isn't reprogramming.

I mean, EEPROM stands for Electronically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory, right? which means that it's being re-programmed by the electronics (ie changing the dwell).

Then again, all of that is probably just academic, seeing as SP have been shipping gats since the 10th of Dec which comply (from what I gather they've just torn the data port off the boards).