Smart Parts "Nerve"

[acsik]

Nopety nope sir!


What Ace guns do is to check the absence/presence of the ball nothing more.

But if you want to have velocity you have to measure the time it takes a ball to travel from the breech (ace measuring point) to the second measuring point and calculate the velocity from the data. THEN adjust the dwell/solenoid to the most optimal values.

Thats a metric assload of calculations and you just fired one ball. At 14+ bps its a waaay bigger job, we speak about milisecs in the firing cycle!!!


Cya

 

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Originally posted by acsik
Nopety nope sir!


What Ace guns do is to check the absence/presence of the ball nothing more.
Thats a metric assload of calculations and you just fired one ball. At 14+ bps its a waaay bigger job, we speak about milisecs in the firing cycle!!!


Cya

the Ace will see a ball, and fire, then work out the velocity based on the time it takes to leave the barrel (for arguments sake another eye is in the end of the barrel) then it has to work out what the dwell time would be and adjust the dwell and solenoid... not overly complicated calculation wise, particularly if you use an array of data and match it against the previous speed to allow it to drag in a pre-defined setting to enable it to drop or rise to the correct speed.... todays processors can do that kind of calculation astonishingly fast... (im no great techy so correct me if im wrong)

The problem will be if you are firing at a speed that means a ball doesnt leave the barrel before the next one is fired, I have no idea what kind of BPS that would be tho...

 

[acsik]

Bingo!!!


And all that on a board wich fits into the gripframe with manageable price and power consumption dont forget that!!!





Cya

 

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Originally posted by acsik
Bingo!!!


And all that on a board wich fits into the gripframe with manageable price and power consumption dont forget that!!!





Cya

That wasnt in the specification

 

[Richard Kirke (DUPS Rocket) UK]

Velocity Adjustment

Wait a minute fellas, do you really think that a velocity adjusting marker would be allowed on a paintball field? You aren't allowed to take a marker that can have its velocity adjusted onto a field.

I see this as a time-saver at the chrony, no hex-key needed. You just fill it with a few balls, set the gun to self chrony mode and fire a few balls. In this mode the ROF would be limited by the "fire, record, calculate, adjust" cycle (or FRCA as I have just dubbed it). Even if this was a few seconds, it would be one hell of a lot quicked than adjusting the velocity on most guns.

Richard

 

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Originally posted by Recoil
The problem will be if you are firing at a speed that means a ball doesnt leave the barrel before the next one is fired, I have no idea what kind of BPS that would be tho...

thinking about it, thats a stupid statement....

to get 2 balls fired from the same marker in the same barrel it would have to be doing about 300bps ish for a 12" barrel or double feeding....

 

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Velocity Adjustment

Originally posted by Richard Kirke (DUPS Rocket) UK
Wait a minute fellas, do you really think that a velocity adjusting marker would be allowed on a paintball field? You aren't allowed to take a marker that can have its velocity adjusted onto a field.

I can see a change in the rules IF and I do mean IF, smart parts limited the marker to firing at 300fps or below.... Im sure that throws up all sorts of complications tho...

However I do like your idea of the FRCAtm mode

 

[Linqon]

Velocity Adjustment

Originally posted by Richard Kirke (DUPS Rocket) UK
Wait a minute fellas, do you really think that a velocity adjusting marker would be allowed on a paintball field? You aren't allowed to take a marker that can have its velocity adjusted onto a field.

In a way, that already exists... The wicked air sports equaliser board for the timmy adjusts the dwell time based on the rate of fire. Increased dwell time = more gas = more velocity, however as I understand it, the was board does this to counter the fact that the regulator on timmy get a dropoff at 8bps+ so the velocity isnt supposed to get to high.

I think the nerve will have something similar to this.

By the way, i don't really think they can implement this in the marker but patented it to avoid anyone else from making money on it
To make it work i think they would need two sensors with a fixed distance between them and measure the time it takes the ball to travel that distance. But on a marker the only reasonable places to put sensors are between the barrel and the bolt, which is just too short distance to be able to measure the time with any accuracy. A sensor on the end of the barrel would work i think, but i seriously doubt anyone would put a delicate sensor on their barrel. Plus it would probably be rather ugly.

However, i think it would be -amazing- if i was wrong and they actually got it to work!!

/Linqon

 

[Richard Kirke (DUPS Rocket) UK]

Change in the rules

Hmm, thing is, if it's slef adjusting then a hack/fault could result in it not only shooting hot, but going all the way to illegal, we can't afford that as a sport.

The FRCAmode (copyright Richard Kirke, 2003) with a capped ROF would mean that it would be easy to spot and undesirable to shoot in a game; even if you could shoot hot, ROF of .3 BPS would nto be worth it.

Richard

 

[acsik]

Welp imagine a superman dive with that barrel sensor thing.

Still they might pull it off, Im damn curious!!!




Cya