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JoseDominguez

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it's a grey area. The whole full-auto thing is weird. I'm pretty sure some of the toys fall into dodgy legality. It's just not acted on. Think about it, how many players have a marker capable of full auto? it's quite a few, you wouldn't use it in tournaments, but I bet everyone has tried it out. If it's not legal to own one in he UK, how many players are breaking the law?
How about a definitive answer? is full auto illegal or just against the rules? if it's illegal then so are a lot of high end soft-airs. Plus any marker with selectable fire rates. How many players have bought US markers? how about RACE, Bushmaster etc.... Where do we stand? Are we getting away with it because the powers that be don't fully understand the implications of the firearms act? or are we in a legal grey area? E.g. if a player is stopped in his car and the PC finds a marker in his boot (trunk), he'll probalby accept "it's for paintball" and no more.
By the letter of the law, I believe full auto markers are illegal (5.1a of the firearms act) we just haven't had anyone charged for it yet. As far as I can see, using/owning a full auto marker could land you in as much legal trouble as owning an Uzi. (ten years in prison).
 
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well, i know u can get ****ty little full auto air soft guns for about £25. and if you really wanna go into soft air badly then u can soend like £400 and get some that do 650bpm, which is about the same as an SA80 i think..so thats full auto and not illegal, although its air soft which is crap, not paintball which rules, and if people use full auto paintball markers they suck cos it takes the fun out of it, the main part i find in training/tournys is firing my cocker cos i love the trigger (blade)....i have said to team mates i will never buy an eblade or race because i think it takes the fun out of it...and i only need whatever bps i can get on my blade frame, no more
 
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Anything at less than 1 ft lb is classed as a toy, but I'm sure some are stronger.So under the firearms act EVERYTHING else that launches a projectile is covered (even crossbows and tasers), and anything full auto is illegal. Over 12 ft lbs and it's a lethal fire arm, so even more laws apply. But I don't see any difference in the law between a full auto marker, machine gun or repeating crossbow. It's up to ten years custodial.
 
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Point for discussion: Tourney players mostly fire two handed OK, but are the markers designed to be fired two handed? most rec ballers fire one handed and everything but the z grip is a one handed pistol grip. So, where do markers fall? particularly remote markers? Pistols are desiged for one handed use, but any marksman uses both hands, whereas a rifle pretty much has to be used in both hands to compensate for recoil/drift etc.. I have shocker with long drop forward, and 10" barrel, I'd hardly call it a rifle, more of a big pistol. (balanced to fire one handed... I use both but it's not a requirement).
So, who decided markers were rifles and therefore covered by the 12ft lbs ruling? what is the PT extreme/splatmaster etc... set at? and aren't all markers a progression from the nelspot pistol? does a longer barrel and a rear bottle make a pistol into a rifle? it doesn't with fire arms (pistol stock and long barrel...still a pistol) just wondering..... isn't it time we had our own set of laws? why are we covered by a set of rules that are full of grey areas and uncertainty just because our equipmet is gun shaped?
 
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