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Russell Smith

Russell Smith

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Re: Re: Question to the Leagues and UKPSF

Originally posted by manike
Russ, what's the point of this bit in bold in the rule?



Does a powerfeed count as a loading mechanism? If so then how can I have that and a warp on my gun? What about air assist hose?

Is there any reason to have that rule? It seems a bit silly and I can't see any benefits to having it?

Why not just allow them to be used?
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Simon the bit about "loading mechs" was intended to allow the warp feed and any other devices working in a similar way but i see your point.
If anyone has any products that they think may infringe the above rule don't worry to much about it we will check all devices and give an honest responce to any questions, We are only concerned with the legal law regarding any new products not the device itself.
We have put our rules in writing and they can be read on line very soon also all team managers have now recieved a copy along with the venue we are using.(it will blow you away).
And if you mean powerfeed as it is on the mag then no it will not be classed as a loading mechanism.


Russ
 
Russell Smith

Russell Smith

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Originally posted by JoseDominguez
and does the Q-loader double collar breach this rule?
It would allow two feed mechanisms on the marker, plus two motorised hoppers.
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If the device is how your quote says then i doubt it would be allowed but i have not seen the device in question,We will keep you informed.

If you have a web site i could check out i could give you an opinion.


Russ
 
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dam-dangerous

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Originally posted by Russell Smith
A hopper may be of any single colour be it translucent, opaque or solid. Hoppers comprising two or more piece shells of differing colours are prohibited.

Hope that helps.
Russ
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dont want to be picky russ................but

almost all hoppers (exept clear hoppers) have two colours on them the shell and the lid.......
ok the lid is clear which i dont think you could class as a colour, but it isnt the same colour as the shell.

ian - uk chameleons.:D
 
Russell Smith

Russell Smith

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Re: Re: Question to the Leagues and UKPSF

Originally posted by dam-dangerous
dont want to be picky russ................but

almost all hoppers (exept clear hoppers) have two colours on them the shell and the lid.......
ok the lid is clear which i dont think you could class as a colour, but it isnt the same colour as the shell.

ian - uk chameleons.:D
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Ian


I used to like you but things do change:) .

To to make it clear it just means both sides of the hopper must be the same colour even if the colour in question is clear:confused: .

Russ
 
jahlad

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Originally posted by Russell Smith
Just checked out the web address and looker at the loader in question and if i understand it right it would be allowed under PA rules.

Russ
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thought so....well i can see no reason why it wouldnt be, its a pretentioned spring basically

now all we need is someone to stock em in the uk!
 
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Re: Re: Question to the Leagues and UKPSF

Originally posted by manike
Russ, what's the point of this bit in bold in the rule?



Does a powerfeed count as a loading mechanism? If so then how can I have that and a warp on my gun? What about air assist hose?

Is there any reason to have that rule? It seems a bit silly and I can't see any benefits to having it?

Why not just allow them to be used?
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I'll get this one if I may...

This came about specifically because people kept asking about what equipment the could carry with them onto the pitch / field. It's important to note that in PA rules there is a very strong and clear distinction between the "field" and the "pitch" and what equipment you can take to both.

We got fed up of people turning up to games and suddenly finding their hopper wasn't working (you'd be amazed at the monotonous & surprising regularity with which this occurs)...then panicking and trying to hold the game up while they got a replacement.

We can't hold a game up, and kicking them off seemed a little harsh so basically we said OK, they can carry a spare hopper onto the field. We kind of assumed that the team might take a spare one rather than every member of the team, but that's their prerogative guess. Obviously we can't have a team cluttering the field by bring 17 spare guns, 14 air systems and a partridge in a pear tree, but it seemed reasonable to allow a spare hopper if it saves a load of grief...

The essence of the rule is basically to allow warp feeds which is a "feed system" as opposed to a "hopper" which is the magazine.

From what I have seen of the Q loader it's actually not a gazillion miles from the warp, the only difference is the "pot" is the "hopper" which fits into the "feed mechanism".

Power feeds are integral with the gun and are therefore not classed as "external" feed systems.

An external forced air pressure feed system is not integral with the gun & that fitted with a warp feed would constitute two feed systems..which apart from being illeagal by the PA rules also begs the question...Why the hell would you want to?

So as the Ultimate says, by the current PA rules and what we know about it, it's legal.
 
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