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Not to worry, Nick. ITN prefers a worthless robot and "rules" that penalize maybe cheaters who might or might not have pressed a button or depressed a trigger that might or might not have altered his (or her) marker's programming if such button pressing or not depressing is done within the frame of reference of a ref watching it happen or thinking perhaps something is not quite kosher. Toss in draconian penalties for what you might or might not have considered doing and constantly tell the Pball universe you're refs are heroes of the Motherland and all will be well. And of course if all else fails Chuck will do as he's told and there's plenty of room under the rug for whatever needs sweeping. :)

PS--threw in that smilie just cus ITN doesn't like 'em. :D
 

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more bollox.
To give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps my humor hides my point.
My point, in case it has slipped by both of you, is that the directional mic's are not doing the job. Therefore by replacing the 'worthless robot' with the 'worthless directional Mic's' the issue of not being able to enforce the rules is compounded rather than eased.

Its so easy to mock others efforts to deal with the ROF issue. You guys have been doing it for years, particularly you Paul. Maybe I want to have a go at it now? I don't see one reason why you guys should have a problem with that.
That said, I know too well how irritating and demoralising it can be to work hard for the right reasons and have some dick take pot shots at you online. For that I apologise. I normally have more class than that....

As for the rest of your post Loco, it does not deserve an answer.
 

Baca Loco

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Is it that time of the month, ITN?

Originally posted by Intheno
more bollox.
To give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps my humor hides my point.
My point, in case it has slipped by both of you, is that the directional mic's are not doing the job. Therefore by replacing the 'worthless robot' with the 'worthless directional Mic's' the issue of not being able to enforce the rules is compounded rather than eased.

Its so easy to mock others efforts to deal with the ROF issue. You guys have been doing it for years, particularly you Paul. Maybe I want to have a go at it now? I don't see one reason why you guys should have a problem with that.
That said, I know too well how irritating and demoralising it can be to work hard for the right reasons and have some dick take pot shots at you online. For that I apologise. I normally have more class than that....

As for the rest of your post Loco, it does not deserve an answer.
My bad. Wow! Boy do I feel foolish. Though I am enjoying your accompanying mixed media background music of lamenting violins. Very moving.

And as I never mock serious efforts you must have me mistaken with somebody else.

As for the rest of my post I expect nothing less than the typical NPPL standard of awkward silence pretending to be dignity. Though you apparently got my point. :)
 

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Though you apparently got my point.
no I didn't, and you clearly missed mine too, even though I tried really hard this time.

I am enjoying your accompanying mixed media background music of lamenting violins. Very moving.
My background music is the 'Theme from Shaft'. Always has been, always will be.

And as I never mock serious efforts you must have me mistaken with somebody else.
Who decides what constitutes a serious effort? You?

Boy do I feel foolish
Don't sweat it. See you in Tampa.
 

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Thanks, ITN. I know I can always count on you--to show up to play and come in second every time. :D

btw, I note that you don't seem to notice (or mind?) when it isn't your favorite ox I'm goring. Surely that's just a coincidence? Even so, you're sure to like my latest View, 'Is Dick Clark the only one on life-support?' :p
 

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OK I can't resist, so here goes.

Which OX you Gore is not the issue in this case. Although I love the fact that this is how you see yourself, lol. Do you wear a cape in your imaginary escapades?

I want a solution to gun cheats as much or more than anyone.
The issue is what is done to combat the cheats. I have tried directional mic's. I have told people several times that they don't work. They wouldn't work no matter which tournament series attempted to use them. There is too much ambient noise on a paintball field and if you took the manufacturers of the directional mic's to a paintball event (something I bothered to do) they will tell you that the equipment is not suitable for the application. What else can I say about this?

as for coming in second, you have your beer goggles on or something. While I have stated some solid fact, you have thrown some smelly stuff, hoping to make it stick. Your usual ploy, which is getting a little old. You need to add some substance - just trying to help you out....

I am sure I will get round to your article while taking a dump in the next couple of weeks. I read your last one yesterday after a particularly tasty curry, I normally like your writing style, you must just be having a bad day today.
 

Baca Loco

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Originally posted by Intheno
--as for coming in second, you have your beer goggles on or something. While I have stated some solid fact, you have thrown some smelly stuff, hoping to make it stick. Your usual ploy, which is getting a little old. You need to add some substance or something - just trying to help you out....
Actually, what you have offered is anecdotal evidence. And if you had bothered to notice, my view on the directional device is currently aligned with yours though I'm only skeptical. So as to the point you were making I was there first. :) (As to the original point I was making you apologised to Nick so . . . that's BL 2, ITN 0)
However, directional mics at range are different creatures than the pact units used in proximity to individual markers which, generally, work as advertised. It's also disingenuous to equate what you have decided are failed directional mics with the equipment the PSP/NXL is currently using and suggesting it's equally as ineffective as Robbie, etc. Used in conjunction with the hard cap it's actually working pretty well.
And as to the ultimate prospect of the long range directional mic serving a function the NXL at present seems to think the testing went well in Orlando--but--the commish's office isn't exactly an independent source, is it? (Did that remark offend you?)
And while you're free to characterize my opinions and observations however you choose neither you or the league ever respond to the particulars except to ignore or dismiss them. Perhaps you'd like to comment on the story in this issue of PGi about the Doc's Raiders DQ in HB? Oddly, it matches up very closely to the version I posted here after receiving info from numerous sources (my invisible flying monkeys are everywhere) and asked numerous questions about only to be met with stony silence.
I will grant you all the leagues, NPPL included, have a vested interest in "getting it right" with regards a whole host of issues and that each of the leagues is making an effort. What annoys me about the NPPL on occasion is the sanctimony the league dresses itself up in. Frankly, it's begging to be skewered and sometimes I can't help myself.
Lastly, I suggest you get used to it 'cus if the dream of paintball as semi-big time sports ever succeeds sports media will follow and any issue of Sports Illustrated or day's allotment of ESPN will quickly demonstrate the sort of field day those kids would have dissecting paintball and its stars.
 

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much better, you see what can happen if you think things through a little more.

One thing you keep hinting at is my ability to shed light on things from an NPPL perspective. I can't do this. I don't work for the NPPL and you know this. You surely know more about the 'docs raiders incident' than I do. I am not remotely interested in this incident or its outcome to be honest. The development of rules that allow a 'level playing field' re ROF is one of my concerns though, and I have strong opinions on this which often conflict with the NPPL rules, but definitely conflict with a ROF cap. If a ROF cap was the only answer to the tournament cheats I couldn't really do anything but agree with it, but the fact that I don't agree with it AND don't see how it can be successfully implemented means that I remain highly skeptical and would prefer to further research a system that still allows superior skill and technology to impact on the game.

Re. the Commish's office jibe, no, it didn't offend me, but then you rarely do. The only thing that winds me up about you is the lack of appreciation for people who are putting thier best efforts into improving the sport. I often think the effort and intelect you put into shooting them down in flames would be better used in coming up with your own viable alternative solutions.

As for the NPPL league not getting back to you about Docs raiders, I can only imagine you asked them in a twatty manner. You know that sometimes works against you, right? Or perhaps they thought it was none of your business?
That said, I honestly don't know anyone better than Camille for getting back to people and dealing with issues, so I remain surprised at that.

I do take your points about the pact units on board, however I spoke to one of the people who was using this while in Pomona and he himself told me it wasn't working. Unless they have developed a better unit recently I find this to be pretty substantial evidence of its ineffectiveness. Perhaps they used a better system in Orlando?

And it is at least 5-2 to me, 5-3 at a push. Nice try though...

EDIT ADDED: HAHAHAHAHA. Nice edit. Just like the Congressional Record. Amended. TFP :cool:
 

Baca Loco

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How exceedingly boring of you, ITN, to lower yourself to a reasonable tone. I'm disappointed.

Couple of quick points.

The pact units are fine, it's the users are who are sometimes suspect. (With the caveat you don't shoot anything in close proximity to the marker as it can cause an echo.) In Orlando there were many more units in use and apparently those using them are getting the hang of it.

In future, when you feel the urge to defend the NPPL I'll remember you don't really know what you're talking about. :D

ITN, a purist. Who'da guessed?