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PSP make massive changes!!!

Baca Loco

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How long do you give the league to bring this player back into the sport? If they havn't done it at the end of this season, would that be grounds to call the attempt a 'failure'? After 2 Seasons?

A change in demographic would have to be 3-5 years in the making, surely?
I have no problem calling it a failure today because that isn't what is going to happen. The PSP compromises are aimed at bringing the sport back to that player.
I am 100% behind any sensible effort to re-build the tourney base but one doesn't rebuild the base at the national/international level of competition. One rebuilds it over and over again at the local level.
One clear tennant of the original league was that it provided the opportunity for the best in the game to compete and for years now the league has been acting against that principle--always with a good reason and/or the best of intentions. If these changes (field size & design restrictions) are enforced top to bottom you can say goodby to the standard of competition. I know, rather dramatic and not applicable to the majority of players immediately but the effect will trickle down.
Given the economic realities the PSP would have been better off crunching the numbers and finding something like the optimum number of teams for the least relative fixed or calculated expense to the league for the first 3 events and if that means restricting entry, that's fine. Then WC can continue to be WC. And the pool of "new" players is actually the pool of players pushed out of the league by the excesses of the old classification system. Reclassify most of those players and you will have a large group who wanted to play and made the effort until they were forced out.
 

Markie C

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Walking the fields on a Thursday would be great if they didn't have teams training on them which the MS have stated that they are still going to do for next season.

This season was a nightmare for walking fields some fields went even set up and when one was the netting wasn't up and the other field had people were on it so it was impossible to do.

I will pass judgment on the larger bunkers when i see what they are but if they start doing comedy ones like they used to i think it will be a mistake and make us look even more like douches for running round pebble dashing as my dad calls it.

With no pit side coaching will be a problem if it is not policed in the right way and knowing the MS they will put up the prices to get more money to pay for extra refs.

When they say its all about making it so every one is on the same playing field with comments like teams with the most money who benefit the most, makes me a laugh a little because they have not addressed the biggest problem i think well over here any way, is that it depends on how much money you have and how many ringers you can buy for your team.

I sent an email to the MS saying i thought it was disgusting that they let American pro players play lower than spl,

Last season they had a teams in div2 with 3 yanks playing for them from one of the top teams in the world and this season they had the same team in div1 playing with 4 yanks at one point plus another i would say 3 to 4 teams with at least 1 yank pro player in it.

There is a lot that the ms and other people need to do before they start saying "yes we are doing it for you the players".
 

head_-_shot

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...So because you live a healthy lifestyle, eat healthily and are more active

...basically your not fat
The PSP want to make that less of an advantage ...pretty stupid really
 

kamikaze_chris

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i like alot of them ideas in theory, but as markie said plenty other things need addressing, and maybe the pro division needs to have seperate rules etc to the rest of the divisions,, so the elite can compete like they do
 

Biscuit

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head shot it,s nowt to do with being fat as you call it.
i know plenty of guys that are very athletic but of the larger frame,that find it hard to get behind the smaller bunkers.
also it is making the fields more user friendly especially for us older guys;).
what everybody forgets ,is that it is the old guys with the money not the whiper snapers.
thats why the psp are changing they are making the fields better for all age groups and sizes

we are trying to get players into sup-air not alienate them,because they are old or large
 

Thib

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I think the biggest problem is that we follow the rules of tournament we aren't there to play.
I understand CPL style xball, with coaching, but this isn't a format for joe the paintballer who never train and only "shoot balls" once a month.

I don't mind most of the new rules, I understand the sport is new and we will have lot of changes before to find a quite stable format.
But the changing in size seem stupid to me, first, it will make the game longer which mean costing more. More balls shot a the start, more static game, I don't really like this. AND it will force field who want to be used as training field to change their size (as players need to train to be used of the length, else it will be really hard to shot your line when you play in tournaments).
But I heard from LH there is very few chances for the millenium to change sizes of the field.

Quick question though,
if not allowing coaching on the pit side, why leaving the snake coach on ? It will make the snake side a LOT more privileged, as if it wasn't dangerous enough, the snake player will be the only one to be coached ?
The new game might turn into "control the snake side".
 

Gee Tee

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Based on this threads assumptions about fitness and mobility, I should have quit paintball before I even started back in 1987. Those that know me well enough know what I'm referring to. Thanks for reminding me why I don't bother playing X-ball. I will stick to the less expensive and pre-judgemental woodsball scene :tsk:
 

spsimon

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if the millenium does follow suit and change the size of the fields dont think thoose blow up netting arena things arent going to be much use ,,,,, wa wa waaa
 

onasilverbike

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if the millenium does follow suit and change the size of the fields dont think thoose blow up netting arena things arent going to be much use ,,,,, wa wa waaa
Er, I don't really get the punchline as:

a) The concept netting ("thoose blow up netting arena things") has been 'sold on' already (to the PALMS series by all accounts).
b) they were a modular deign and the sections could have been added to or subtracted to accommodate any field dimensions, in theory.

Not that I'm defending the MS for their use, they were a white elephant!