Protein Bars...Training Supplements
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John, I think you know me well enough to realise I wouldn't get into anything like roids unless I had researched it.
I would also hope you realise I'm no dumbass and whilst I don't lay claim to being an expert in physiology or biology, I do have a strategy for acquiring relevant information on the subject..and I achieve it by proxy.
Of course I could sit and study for hours and then make a decision based upon my own conclusions but I haven't really got the time and so I adopt a policy of 'weighting' data.
If a gym rat tells me he believes this or that, I will not give his account as much credence as I would say, a PhD or graduate in biology.
I seek information that is in a sense, validated by virtue of its author being formally educated and as far as I can discern, no agendas outside that of wanting to do valid research.
In this way, I can be somewhat more convinced than some fat ass pseudo-intellectual from the gym...you get my point John?
The problem here is, as you have already touched upon, is the sheer scale of the subject area and with scopes such as these, there is a fair degree of disagreement.
I'm not saying you can't rely on any of the information but you do have to sift through accounts and ultimately make a call..and that is what i do.
I'm no expert, I just listen to them.
You have previously remarked on the problem regarding lack of data in assessing long term effects of roid abuse and whilst this is a valid concern, it is no more likely than the long term effects of taking some vitamins...just because no long term studies have been done doesn't automatically mean any such study will throw up contraindications..a possibility 'yes' but that is all..you get my drift mate?
I would also hope you realise I'm no dumbass and whilst I don't lay claim to being an expert in physiology or biology, I do have a strategy for acquiring relevant information on the subject..and I achieve it by proxy.
Of course I could sit and study for hours and then make a decision based upon my own conclusions but I haven't really got the time and so I adopt a policy of 'weighting' data.
If a gym rat tells me he believes this or that, I will not give his account as much credence as I would say, a PhD or graduate in biology.
I seek information that is in a sense, validated by virtue of its author being formally educated and as far as I can discern, no agendas outside that of wanting to do valid research.
In this way, I can be somewhat more convinced than some fat ass pseudo-intellectual from the gym...you get my point John?
The problem here is, as you have already touched upon, is the sheer scale of the subject area and with scopes such as these, there is a fair degree of disagreement.
I'm not saying you can't rely on any of the information but you do have to sift through accounts and ultimately make a call..and that is what i do.
I'm no expert, I just listen to them.
You have previously remarked on the problem regarding lack of data in assessing long term effects of roid abuse and whilst this is a valid concern, it is no more likely than the long term effects of taking some vitamins...just because no long term studies have been done doesn't automatically mean any such study will throw up contraindications..a possibility 'yes' but that is all..you get my drift mate?
Thought I'd update as I'm a bit hungover and bored just now.
Definitely feeling the benefits , have gained muscle mass and my bench has gone up to low reps at 50kg just now ,bought a heavy bag and am learning training drills and combinations at the mo so I can use it for Cardio work ,hurt my wrists a bit at first but learned that lesson quickly, still swimming and hitting the gym ,less than before due to work but transformed my 'shed' into a home gym to make up for it ...as for supplements , I take creatine about an hour and a half before my workout and I currently take protein shakes just after ,multivitamins and cod liver oil everyday but i still eat junk and this is my main failing at the mo , i really need to sort out my diet...however I highly recommend hitting the weights bench it makes you feel a **** load better in so many ways although you do start to look at people differently (bench ability , build to weight ratio, or maybe i'm just weird )..
Fook ,i think i just did a blog or summat ....really need a life .
Definitely feeling the benefits , have gained muscle mass and my bench has gone up to low reps at 50kg just now ,bought a heavy bag and am learning training drills and combinations at the mo so I can use it for Cardio work ,hurt my wrists a bit at first but learned that lesson quickly, still swimming and hitting the gym ,less than before due to work but transformed my 'shed' into a home gym to make up for it ...as for supplements , I take creatine about an hour and a half before my workout and I currently take protein shakes just after ,multivitamins and cod liver oil everyday but i still eat junk and this is my main failing at the mo , i really need to sort out my diet...however I highly recommend hitting the weights bench it makes you feel a **** load better in so many ways although you do start to look at people differently (bench ability , build to weight ratio, or maybe i'm just weird )..
Fook ,i think i just did a blog or summat ....really need a life .
Jamie along with ur creatine, take a protein shake 1 hr before your workout 
Gives the body healing power while its getting ripped to shreds..
Gives the body healing power while its getting ripped to shreds..
your probably best off using the protein shakes instead far more nutritional i.e more and better essential amino acids, I take 1 shake straight after work out and I work around 5-6 times a week.
best bet is to use why protein 'Reflex' voted one of the best
hope this helps
James
best bet is to use why protein 'Reflex' voted one of the best
hope this helps
James
Some info about protein for those who are interested:
http://www.jissn.com/content/pdf/1550-2783-4-8.pdf
http://www.jissn.com/content/pdf/1550-2783-4-8.pdf