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Rich S

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the millennium rules are pretty much decided and work quite well, but they will not work at a local. for a local tourney the ukpsf needs to be involved,
1 - at the beginning of each season players need to register (to a devision and team) and they get photo id.
2 - they can play in any tourney at that level with a team in that level.
3 - if their team goes up an level they get a new card.
4 - on the card is a marking so that if a player plays in a lower devision a hole is puched on they card, each card has a maximum of eg 5 moves.
5 - a player can move up devision when he wants but if the tourney organisers think that the team of players need to change devision they can do thart.

from this working paintball can have a system that controls high div players from playing for low div teams too often.
 

markh

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Aug 6, 2001
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Hatts, you wrote
I notice you didn't say anything about the time when the Chicks got ripped apart by a division "E" team with two Shockwave players guesting for the day
Hatts when did this occur ? Was this early this year ? I used to play for the defunct team Katz, and I seem to remember we did play a game with Chicks and being in division E (due to the seeding used) rings a large bell in my head, in fact I think it was Bullys series at Nottingham. But...

In March this year, the core of Katz left to form Shockwave 3 (novice). At that 5 man, all the players were novice players from Katz, and all now play in Shockwave novice, but none are pro and I can honestly say we have never had a "pro" player playing for us, or have any of our players ever played Pro/Am !
 

kris

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Jan 10, 2002
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that was us RDX
It was our first tournament and we wouldn't have been able to play otherwise.
RDX since then have moved up to division B without the help of 2 shockwave players, Shane and Eddie
I am not suggesting that they didn't help, cause they sure as hell did. What they did do was give us a fire and a burning desire to win.
They taught us loads that day and now people complain when we guest for people:rolleyes:
The point is i think its so so useful to have this knowledge to be passed down to the lower teams.
RDX have been ripping teams up ever since
Have to say though its a big jump from moving up the divisions to B. Damn shane, eddie please come back :D
At the top levels sharing players is a no no.
 
Hi Kris,

Thanks for your support in this. I couldn't actually remember which team it was :) and it was never my intention to have a dig at Shockwave or anyone else, so if it came across like that then please accept my sincere apologies.

MarkH, no nothing to do with KATZ or Shockwave 3, so don't sweat it :) but thanks for the input. I wondered what happened to KATZ, I always thought that was a pretty cool name

Kris, the only reason I actually mentioned that game at all was to try and keep a little perspective in my reply to another post where a certain individual chose to single out the Chicks as if they were the only "E div" team to have ever borrowed a player from another division, or specifically in this case a Div A player (shock, horror gasp!) The Chicks certainly never complained about going up against a couple of higher Div players, and to be entirely honest they kinda enjoyed it because on reflection it was a harder game and they learned more as a result.

Like RDX when you started, and a great many other teams, without the extra guest player it would have been tough for them to go out a player down, especially as their field captain had to leave after the first two games. Plus they learned a lot having some higher division players along side them.

In actual fact the Chicks had 4 different players guesting for them throughout that day, one of which had only been playing for 6 months and one of which used to play for the Hellfish until recently, a division C/D team (another point conveniently ignored by the poster in question), and never more than one guest in any one game.

I really do not have a problem with players guesting for teams in the 2K series. I think it makes it interesting, fun and spreads the experience around. Which is valuable, certainly for the younger and less experienced players.

I think it's a huge credit to RDX that you have now made Div B on your own merits and in a relatively short time too which I think is really cool. Interesting don't you think that people complain when you guest for other teams now:)

What I really like to see is when lower division players get asked to guest for higher Div teams. Now that's gotta be an ego boost :)

I don't often feel a need to explain myself, but in this case I'll try as I have a nagging feeling that I may have caused offence to some other players so here goes...

Usually I don't bite at this kind of crap but in this case I did. The individual in question, well two of them from the same team it now appears, took it upon themselves to use my original thread as an opportunity to try and get at me and 6E by attempting to belittle the efforts of the girls team. So yes I bit. If they wanna have a pop at me then fine, but I felt it was a really cheap shot at the girls who played their rocks off that day and because of one game, where one guest player had an exceptional game for them they decided to try and pull apart all the hard work and effort that the Chicks had put in.

Hopefully this will be my last word on the subject. I was trying to let this thread die quietly to avoid any more upset, but from the telephone calls and e-mails I've had about it from all over the country, there's a lot of people really pi$$ed of at the comments made by these two. I think they've actually done themselves more harm than good. Maybe that'll teach them to think before posting crap but there you go...what goes around comes around. And God only knows what they'll say when Mr. Ward-Barber is playing for the Chicks at STB in August :)

(It shows how observant the poster was too as he claimed the guest on the Hyperball field shot "6 of 7" of the other team which takes some doing in a 6 man tournament, and as at least two of the girls claim eliminations too, does that mean there were in fact 8 players on the other team? :) )

By the way Kris, the Chicks are probably going to be short handed at Kiddermister this weekend, you wanna guest for a game ? :)
 

Si.

Old Git.
Hatts,

I don't want to start an argument on the Forums, I really think you are taking my comments too personal..

If you go back and look through the pervious posts that have been made in this thread you will see that I never ment to have a dig at the chicks (cheap or not).. I mearly wanted peoples opinions on higher teams playing for lower teams. The reason I mentioned the example of the chicks was that it was a game that I actually witnessed myself, so could comment on it. Several people have mentioned other games where this has happened but I didn't know about those.. surely that's the point of a forum, so people can add their comments to discussions and bring matters to light.

This thread started nicely enough with a discussion about people playing for other teams..right I'm confused at how this has turned into a "slagging match".. which is exactly what I didn't want.

We both know that emails and postings can be taken the wrong way.. it's sometimes difficult to express ideas and oppinions clearly that way..

Once again, I appologise if you think this is a personal attack on you or any of the chicks.. IT IS NOT!.

I Appologise if you think this was intended as a cheap shot at the chicks. IT WAS NOT!

As I said earlier,, I am gratefull to You, Gillie and 6E paintball for all of your help in the past, if not for 6E then there would be no Hellfish and I would be spending my hard earned cash on something other than Paintball right now. (Hmm, theres a thought..:rolleyes: )

Catch me at the next event and I'll make it up to you with a Sausage Buttie (or two..:D )
 

WKD

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I think what Hatts was trying to say at the very start of the thread was how can players who are registered with another team in a tourney suddenly end up in another team for one game get spotted by there opponents before the game begins that they arent with in that team the ultimate gets involved swapped players make way for original team players and they dont even get punished for blatant cheating!
Then the thread went off on a tangent instead of dealing with the matter at hand enough said (read thread Back to the main point.)
Thanks Liz for pointing out that i had started a new thread instead of a reply not done many post on the forums.
To Hatts see you at Heathrow on wednesday looking forward to Portugal:D
 

one of the chicks

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Hi

I would just like to say that if it wasnt for other teams guesting for each other today at the series 2k2 tournament at kidderminster, then half the teams would have not ended up playing or have ended up going on the field with 3 or 4 players. This happend for more than one team and i would like to thank all the players who helped the chicks out.
What are other teams for except for playing against each other? helping each other out ? and that is how id like to see things of this nature be seen as, as other im sure other teams would rather play a fair game with a couple of guest form newhere than not play at all?
So thanxs to everyone for your support today,
Love n hugs steph xxx
ps this is not a dig! Just a comment.
:)
 

Alex Hicks.

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At novice and sometimes am level in local tourneys guesting should be encouraged rather than discouraged. It's much better to have a good game against a full team than a pathetic walk over because of silly rules just to stop a very small minority of abusers. The prizes really arn't worth getting het up about at this level. When I played for DUPS the support from guesting players enabled us to play events we otherwise wouldn't have been able to. Before have even had guests playing with us against their own team. That level of sportsmanship is amazing.
I can see there maybe a problem with people abusing the system but that is usually dealt with effectively without having rules that penilise all teams, as I know have been at some events with no names mentioned. It is usually obvious when a team is getting guests to make up numbers rather than getting a couple of pro players in to up results. Who you playing for in Portugal then Hatts? Lucky for some ay, i'm in the middle of exams, ugh.
 

WKD

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Sorry forgot to make it clear in my last reply that i was taking about what went on in Amsterdam a Millenium event as for tourneys like Bullys and the rest i totally agree with helping teams out if there short ive done it and will still do it plus newer teams need to be encouraged to play it brings new blood into the sport so it is always gonna be better for Brit paintball in general you never know by encouraging new teams and helping them out there could be a Brit version of Chris Lasoya in a teams mist !