PGI (uk)

[Beaker]

Originally posted by Tyger
Needs to be asked here. Seeing as my name was brought in withte "TJ & Tyger" thing (And, TJ, you still owe me $30 for that cab ride you bastage!)

The UK is abou equal in size to one of the 50 US states. And yet, you don't see a magazine dedicated to "California Paintball" only. Oh, back in the day you did, but not anymore. Ok, you can argue that "Another Printed Gazette" has a Midwest or a West coast bias, but it really doesn't.

A "UK ONLY" Magazine better cover most of the Euro play in order to have content from month to month. And even then, you need writers to actually make the articles in the first place.

Don't get my intentions wrong, wish them nothing but hte best. But by only covering the "UK", they may be doing more damage than good to themselves. Granted, the US presence in PGI is pretty big, but I don't see any UK guys putting virtual ink to virtual paper and writing up their games for publication. If you want to be noticed, you need to get up and be noticed.

-Tyger

I'll admit it when it happens, and I agree with Tyger .

I like the idea of the new mag, but I think they you guys might be setting them up for a fall if you think it's going to be much more than a fanzine. There is no way that this will be near PGI production quality for quite sometime (if at all) as the money HAS to come from somewhere and AFAIK they don't have Teddy Bear Int watching their back.

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by }{y8ri|)
OOOOps Sorry robbo
What marker did you use back then Bushmaster,Phantom,sniper?
what team was it Bad company?



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Robbo,

When did you put the spyder down??

Paul.

 

[rancid]

Originally posted by JoseDominguez
Well I was at the 1st tournament of the year yesterday, and interest seemed pretty big, it's what we need. I'm pretty sure that a whole country's worth of paintballers should be enough support for one mag. Plus, it can only be good for the image of the sport over here.

So, basically, you're saying I'm wrong.

 

[JoseDominguez]

No mate, that was you

I was just voicing a bit of support for a UK mag is all. Not having a go at anyone, actually took me a while to read back to your post. It's been a while since we had anything specific and we won't know until someone tries it. Things have changed since the "crash" and paintball won't get any bigger without a few people willing to give it a go.

 

[Hatts]

Originally posted by Tyger
The UK is abou equal in size to one of the 50 US states...

Tyger,

I must admit I'm astounded that someone such as you could make such a blatantly ignorant and ill-informed statement. You're comparing the entire United Kingdom with a single state of the USA because of its geographical size? I find it hard to believe that even the most bigoted anti-Brit. could actually say something like that, let alone someone I actually have a certain amount of respect for and someone I kind of assumed was considerably better educated.

The population of the USA is approx. 284 million. The population of the UK is approx. 65 million and is one of the major trading & manufacturing nations of the world.

A population of 284 million divided amongst 50 states averages a population of just over 5.6 million per state. In contrast “The UK, a leading trading power and financial center, deploys an essentially capitalistic economy, one of the quartet of trillion dollar economies of Western Europe.” - Source of Information: CIA- The World Factbook 2001

Perhaps you’d like to reconsider your original statement and suggest a more plausible comparison?

Best Regards

 

[Tyger]

Originally posted by Hatts
Tyger,

I must admit I'm astounded that someone such as you could make such a blatantly ignorant and ill-informed statement. You're comparing the entire United Kingdom with a single state of the USA because of its geographical size?

Yes, becasue I was only speaking in geogrpahical size.

NOT the population!

And you've never been to Montana, have you?

My point still stands, writing a UK only 'zine would make as much sense as a "Idaho only" 'zine. Waht games can you cover ONLY in the UK? It doesn't make sense. But that being said, I wish such a magazine luck.

This has nothing to do with nationalistic pride here.

-Tyger

 

[JoseDominguez]

I think the main point here is why people buy a mag, think about it, you've a fair readership in the UK who buy for the articles other than tourney write ups, because frankly, the majority of UK players are very detached from the US scene. There's a huge amount of UK information, interviews, advertising etc... etc... etc...that just doesn't get covered (as it's irrelevant to a mainly US readership).
I was at Kenny's you could fill a mag with the funny stuff from that alone. So, the majority of UK players don't really buy PGI for the game coverage, it's the other stuff. PBUK will have the other stuff, plus relevant (To UK players) game write ups. As I've said before BUY BOTH. They are two diferent things.
As for the "america is geographically bigger than the UK statement" cool, anyone want to buy my new mag? it's PBAA (paintball antarctica) we are covering the inter-ice floe eskimo championships next month, articles include "whale fat and wipers", "clearing a burst with 3rd stage frostbite" and "bunkering behind the walrus on the 50", I'm sure my mag will be a success as I'm covering the biggest area.
Gotta go now, my fingers just froze and fell off.

 

[Hatts]

Originally posted by Tyger
Yes, becasue I was only speaking in geogrpahical size.

NOT the population!

And you've never been to Montana, have you?

My point still stands, writing a UK only 'zine would make as much sense as a "Idaho only" 'zine. Waht games can you cover ONLY in the UK? It doesn't make sense. But that being said, I wish such a magazine luck.

This has nothing to do with nationalistic pride here.

-Tyger

I'm not talking nationalistic pride either, simply statistics, but let me make sure I understand this right. You're saying that a publications success based on its distribution and what it can cover is determined by the size of the land mass or geographical surface area on which it focuses and not by the number of people who live there, the economic status of the country or number of events taking place?

I think Jose makes the point far more eloquently than I

No I have never been to Montana....should I? I'm planning my hols for next year so if it's worth it I just might.

And if you want to know what’s going on in the UK, then you could always subscribe you might be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Tyger]

Originally posted by Hatts
...You're saying that a publications success based on its distribution and what it can cover is determined by the size of the land mass or geographical surface area on which it focuses and not by the number of people who live there, the economic status of the country or number of events taking place?

I'm saying that if you only cover what's happening in, say, Wisconsin, you'll have a lean 'zine.

If you only cover UK events, you'll have a hard time filling the 'zine all the time. It's why PGI prints all countries events. Simple stuff, really. Nothing intended by it other than the surface statement.

-Tyger

 

[}{y8ri|)]

PGI STICK TO YOUR GUNS

Just keep your mag the same,and keep up the good work

Well thats what i say



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