Paintball used in Terror Training...

[Red_Merkin]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080226/tuk-fanatic-guilty-of-terror-training-6323e80_3.html

Three of their followers, Kibley da Costa, 25, Mohammed Al-Figari, 45, and Kader Ahmed, 20, were found guilty of attending terror camps in the New Forest and at a Berkshire paintballing centre.

Anyone know which site?

 

[evoonline]

so the terror camp was a paintball centre? or the terror camp was in new forest and its just a paintball site in berkshire?

 

[Lump]

media are just unreal

 

[Ion_Paintball]

Tell me about it!!

Got a family memeber who works for one doing photos before you start.. hehe and he said all you can ever take for granted in a news paper is the date!

 

[Kat]

Probably rubbish.

But it sounds like they're trying to say paintball was used as terrorist training?

I wouldn't usualy link the two...

 

[Ion_Paintball]

Not tourament...

But the woods can be easily linked to play soliders, throwing grenades and smoke etc...

 

[pigeonmat]

probably a Delta Force site

they can't say no to money, whatever the source

 

[P41ntb4ll3r]

lets be honest i wouldn't really worry about terrorists training at delta force... whats the worst they can do....

 

[Red_Merkin]

I think it's quite possible these fanatics went paintballing, and convinced themselves that it was military training.

In a separate hearing linked to the trial, two other members of the group admitted attending a terrorist training camp.

Sentencing will take place at a later date.

"Hamid and Ahmet are dangerous people who between them carried out the recruitment, grooming and terrorist training of young men," said Peter Clarke, assistant commissioner for specialist operations at London's Metropolitan Police.

Prosecutors said Ahmet and Hamid prepared the men for jihad, or holy war, by organising terrorism training disguised as camping or paintballing trips in rural locations around Britain.

An undercover officer who helped secure the convictions once heard a conversation in which Hamid boasted: "Fifty-two, that's not even a breakfast for me", referring to the July 7 attacks.

"Hamid directed his recruits through military exercises, teaching them how to defend themselves against armed ambush. This was not innocent activity taking place on a camping weekend," said Clarke.

"Hamid's links to men convicted of carrying out the (July 21) attempted bombings in London shows the depth of his involvement in terrorism."

Britain's security services say numerous Britons have travelled abroad, mainly to al Qaeda camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan, to learn militant training skills, but this was the first case of its kind involving training in the UK.

The jury were shown pictures of the men practising firing positions using sticks instead of guns, pretending to throw grenades, crawling through streams and carrying out other paramilitary-style exercises.

The day after the July 7 attacks, Hamid sent a phone text message to one of the July 21 conspirators saying: "We fear no one except Allah. We will not change our ways. We are proud to be Muslims".

The court also heard that when he was arrested in October 2004 at a stall in the capital's Oxford Street shopping area, he told police he was "Osama bin London" and claimed to have a bomb.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080226/tpl-uk-britain-trainingcamp-81f3b62_1.html

He said a clear demonstration of this was that four men who attended these camps later tried to carry out suicide bombings on London's transport system on July 21, 2005.

Furthermore the organiser of the trips, Mohammed Hamid, who has been convicted for encouraging his followers to kill non-Muslims, was in regular contact with five of the six men jailed for that plot.

Detectives believe the group were planning to go overseas to get more, and better training, with Pakistan and Afghanistan the likely destinations.

But before they went they said they needed to be fit as some hopeful recruits had been sent home.

Hamid and the group's other leader, Atilla Ahmet, share much in common with many of those jailed for terrorism offences in Britain since the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.

They were both associates of imprisoned radical cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri, who faces extradition to the United States on charges of trying to set up an al Qaeda training camp there.

Ahmet, a close confidant, was described by police as being one of Hamza's henchman, one of his "Praetorian Guard".

Police say this puts a different complexion on the paintballing trips, exercises and camping trips they organised.

"There was repeated talk of fighting and killing non-believers," the official said.

"They were overtly rejecting Muslims who did not follow their violent path."
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080226/tpl-uk-britain-trainingcamp-feature-81f3b62_1.html

Hamid organised outdoor activities, including camping and paintballing, at sites in the Lake District, New Forest, Berkshire, Kent and East Sussex.

He was joined in his teachings by Atilla Ahmet, 43, the self-styled 'emir' of the gang, who admitted three charges of soliciting murder at the start of the trial.

Ahmet was Abu Hamza's right-hand man at Finsbury Park Mosque and took control of his notorious Supporters of Shariah group after his arrest in 2004.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/skynews/20080226/tuk-street-preacher-guilty-over-terror-c-45dbed5.html

It's entirely possible...


of course they could have told everyone they were going paintballing, and then went to play in the forest instead...

 

[Stan]

In the hazy place that i call my brain i seem to remember that they were in the New Forest doing their "training"... The bit about crawling through streams and using sticks rings a bell. They were seen by people out walking their dogs who thought it was a bit suspicious.