Paintball, if it was a recognised sport.

[Tom Allen]

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
I think tha point is that, even if y'all had one league that everyBrit team played, having a team play it wouldn't be worth that much to a major sponsor...

And why not.

Where did all the top teams come from, they didn't just materialise out of thin air, they played the tournaments, and worked their way up to these dizzy heights of paintball. They got sponsored, they were seen, and playing in the current leagues.

Sponsers look for the best, one league will show our best, whether it's good enough or not.

 

[TJ Lambini]

Originally posted by Tom Allen
in the current leagues.

Sponsers look for the best, one league will show our best, whether it's good enough or not.

Y'see, this is a popular false belief that people need ridding of - sponsors look for teams that will shift product, either directly or by increasing brand kudos and awareness. And I'm sorry, but tha size and nature of your particular pod means that, like I said, it ain't worth much to a big sponsor.

 

[Tom Allen]

Originally posted by stongle
Ahh, but in response to your reply to my post, and my point the Millennium already caters for novice and rookie level (hence hit that mark). If the general quality of the UK game is below this par, the get to a level the sponsors ARE willing to look at.

The PA is your best bet to achieve this UK's No1 obsession many of you have. The problem is, it's only a year old and alot of people havent got the patience to see it through. Such an initiative will likely take several years to come together, in the meantime there's always the Millennium / NPPL (or whatever they choose to call it next year).

It would, and should, take a few years to organise. It's time to think of the future of paintball, not just for the next season.

 

[Tom Allen]

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
Y'see, this is a popular false belief that people need ridding of - sponsors look for teams that will shift product, either directly or by increasing brand kudos and awareness. And I'm sorry, but tha size and nature of your particular pod means that, like I said, it ain't worth much to a big sponsor.

Maybe not, but if we sit on our ar#es and think we're not going to get anything, we shouldn't be playing this sport.

And one league would make the biggest impact from this pod.

 

[TJ Lambini]

Originally posted by Tom Allen
Maybe not, but if we sit on our ar#es and think we're not going to get anything, we shouldn't be playing this sport.

Again, I am confused...I thought you played cos you loved it, not in tha hope of getting sponsorship.

I think a lot of people look at Paintball in a very funny way...I think it's cos teams have been spoiled in tha past and, now tha industry is waking up to itself, a lot of people are gonna get a rude awakening.

 

[stongle]

Originally posted by Tom Allen
It would, and should, take a few years to organise. It's time to think of the future of paintball, not just for the next season.

So your fed up with the pa already????

I thought that was everyone's saviour?

 

[Slapper Guy]

I love PB playing, talking, watching and all the banter that goes with it. It'd be great if it was a recognised sport but but for that to happen it has to be made more attractive to Joe Public.

From what I've read/heard bout the PA it's doing a great job and I'd love to play in it, but finance reasons means we can't commit to doing the solid 6 months balling as we'd be sure to miss at least one round. No offense to the PA - great idea to be harsh nothing worse than hearing the next team is no show - granted sometimes it's legite. Stretch it over the year ?????

Not sold on the one league thing tho, Basketball format from the states perhaps sounds like a great idea where depending where you end up in your div, you'll play similar ranked teams come last two rounds of season ?????

And as with the dizzy heights of footy (soccer!) I'm sure players in the top flight ain't always been overpaid pro's (by the way anyone know any millionaires who wanna buy our team - we play in blue ???) Take rugby for example only in recent years has it gone big - still playing two formats and the players aren't gunning for each other after games.

Last point ..... we sell the game and it's how we represent it, as to how peeps perceive it.

my 2 shillings and yeah was a bad day at work !!

 

[Tom Allen]

Originally posted by stongle
So your fed up with the pa already????

I thought that was everyone's saviour?

I'm not fed up with the PA, what made you think that, far from it. We have to try and move forward, and get noticed. I agree with slapper guy regarding spectators, but they must understand paintball to be interested, and we need to make paintball easier to understand.

 

[garycarrot]

If the P.A. was everyones saviour, then it should be growing each year. Is there more teams playing in 2005 than in 2004??

More divisions??
More teams in each division??

I do think the P.A. is a step forward.But is it still moving??

 

[Russell Smith]

Originally posted by sjt19
What is the point? The events in the Uk have no bearing on anything. Top teams have no desire to be the best in the UK, there is a bigger stage to play on. The NPPL and for most other teams the Millennium are the places to be.

Why waste a day playing an event where more often than not you get screwed by poor/biased judging, have no prospect of increasing/furthering the team's reputation or skill levels, and would be better off training and focussing on events that actually mean something.

At the end of the day the bigger picture is what sponsors focus on, and players on the top teams focus on.

Needless to say that there will be people replying to this post citing the PA league as the saviour of UK paintball. But surely the absence of the top teams from the PA prove that it is not. Sponsors that big teams court are invariably American, with the exception of WDP, Planet etc... None of those American sponsors such as JT will give you anything based on coming first in Div 1 of the PA, because it means nothing.

Sam,
For such a young man you are so full of bs.
Fact, about 1400 players are involved in tournament paintball in the UK.
Fact, less than 50 play the states, and less than 100 play more than 2 millenniums in any season.

Now are you saying that everyone who does not fit your criteria of a “pro” player should be left by the wayside.
The reason you think that the “top” teams in the UK have no desire to be the UK’s best is simple – you wont be, in the minds of us common folk you play a poor third to the Tigers and Nexus, but that’s only the opinion of the player base who supports UK paintball – so never mind eh.

And you must also live in bloody never never land if you think that all reffing in the UK is “poor/biased” and it is all fine in the USA, don’t talk bollocks, are you trying to convince yourself all the expense you incur is valid because of X,Y,Z.
(and don’t come back with a smart arsed well we are sponsored reply to that – I have my info as well!)

But please tell me why any events “ actually mean something” if paying a fortune to play their events and impress some sponsor to throw you some bits and let you say this stuff is good because (insert own bull**** here).
The PA has never put itself forward as the so called savior of UK paintball, it has it’s own viewpoints on what is needed and put it’s own cash on the line to try to get it, what it has done is raised the level of what teams should expect from organizers/events.
And why does the absence of your top teams prove that not to be the case,
I am not on here to defend the PA time will tell on that experiment, but the other twelve hundred players you treat with such disrespect.


Shame on you



Russell