Opus Finale .... A Warts an' all Exposé of Paintball's Very Own Megalomaniac

[Robbo]

H - because sometimes in life, you cannot ignore what people have done in favour of something as trivial as you might like his events.
Bottom line for me is, somewhere along the line, you have to factor in what people have done otherwise you just go through life prostituting your moral code for the sake of what exactly?
Surely most reasonably-minded people would take a stand - I'd like to think so anyway.

There will of course be people who elect to disbelieve or ignore what barnett has been up to and carry on regardless but I genuinely believe the number of people who have been made to think again after reading this thread is increasing.
And Steve Baldwin's post is testament to that ... and also the number of people on here who stated their experiences.

 

[Ashfire]

Just an outsiders perspective here. If we want him out of the sport, and I certainly do, then someone has to take his place. Like him or not he's organised paintball at some unique locations.

If someone else comes along willing to organise equivalent ventures then in pretty sure he'd be out of business. If nobody does this then surely he will sit safely in his niche.

 

[Canon Fodder]

I'll organise one, right in the centre of London, it won't be a namby pamby hold your hand style game, no insurance or anything soft like that, its an underground style game with each team fighting it out while trying to evade armed response units.

To add to the excitement if the police get hold of you I'll deny all knowledge of the gamce, you know, to add to the realism.

Only £150 a player, spaces limited, if you want I'll drive you down there in the back of an uninsured transit.

You heard it here first, the launch of Ape Paintball, brought to you by Seaside Production, paintball 3.0.

(And just to cover myself this post is a poor saterical pop at guerilla paintball games, I'm not encouraging you to play paintball in the centre of London).

 

[Robbo]

Just an outsiders perspective here. If we want him out of the sport, and I certainly do, then someone has to take his place. Like him or not he's organised paintball at some unique locations.

If someone else comes along willing to organise equivalent events then I'm pretty sure he'd be out of business. If nobody does this then surely he will sit safely in his niche.

Ash, that's a pretty good question - there will be consequences in all this for barnett but let's assume he loses the lot [it certainly wont end like this for him] with all players and teams pulling their support and he goes 'poof' in the cloud of a smoke-grenade.

Apart from a lot of people celebrating his demise, we have a vacuum to fill but not as much of a vacuum as t-b would have us believe;
Any vacuum that barnett leaves behind is gonna be back-filled soon enough.
Our industry is a relatively small one compared to other more main-line sports and because of that, the industry will already know t-b's exit provides opportunities for others such as Jim and Tim from Warped [North Vs South] , Ronnie Hollington and Dave form Mayhem and Ged Green.
All those guys are good guys, honest and professional, they will fill any shortfalls in our rec/scenario side of paintball that may get left behind.
And I tell you one thing about those guys just mentioned, none of them will BS you, they will provide what they say they are gonna provide, you can trust all of them implicitly.

But, barnett's departure won't be immediate, or total.
There will be an upward curve that depicts his rate of haemorrhage in terms of number of people attending his events - it's already began anyway, regardless of anything that's been said here.

His last Stargate saw only couple of hundred people going when he was telling people there were a lot more - he had the audacity to get on to the phone and tell people that Mayhem's big game had only 150 players show up when he knew damned well, Ronnie's event had piled in over 600 players ... barnett BS, it's a whole new language when he indulges himself in it.

He will soldier on doing whatever he can to salvage his market-share but that will diminish in its own time.
His demise will be a desperate one, such that there will be an extended pressure applied to our industry [by our players, on forums etc] to clean house.
Our industry people know what needs to be done, not for me, not for themselves and not for anything outside of our players' best interests .... they are the bottom line in this !!!

 

[Dusty]

Just an outsiders perspective here. If we want him out of the sport, and I certainly do, then someone has to take his place. Like him or not he's organised paintball at some unique locations.

If someone else comes along willing to organise equivalent ventures then in pretty sure he'd be out of business. If nobody does this then surely he will sit safely in his niche.

I'd also say that if or when barnett goes, or players boycott his events, there are already other scenario games in place to choose from. Long established ones at that.

If you don't like a particular car manufacturer or dealer, there are plenty others to choose from. Same principle applies to paintball.

 

[Buddha 3]

That's the cool thing about being a niche: Niches are easily filled.

 

[MorphMann]

Robbo, I have left this alone but as your admins have posted I was only trying to help.
I have never had a beer with him or ever been to his house or whatever you might think of me.
I am not a sycophant or anything close. All I tried to do was help with legal matters.

I guess this is gonna get me kicked off forum and all I wanted to do was continue 'Off field' as it were.

If anybody has any hard copy proof then take it to the police. If you don't then stop telling the new people that your the new god and your word is the truth. Contrary to above posts I have seen him say that all of this is wrong on many posts on FB. Facebook only lets you see what groups and pages you are on, and obviously the haters will only go on groups which hate. Just as the people who just want to play ball will join paintball pages/sites/forums. Let people make there own minds up by playing at different sites and big games.

One other thing Robbo. Allow me to defend myself

 

[smudgerebt]

Robbo, I have left this alone but as your admins have posted I was only trying to help.
I have never had a beer with him or ever been to his house or whatever you might think of me.
I am not a sycophant or anything close. All I tried to do was help with legal matters.

I guess this is gonna get me kicked off forum and all I wanted to do was continue 'Off field' as it were.

If anybody has any hard copy proof then take it to the police. If you don't then stop telling the new people that your the new god and your word is the truth. Contrary to above posts I have seen him say that all of this is wrong on many posts on FB. Facebook only lets you see what groups and pages you are on, and obviously the haters will only go on groups which hate. Just as the people who just want to play ball will join paintball pages/sites/forums. Let people make there own minds up by playing at different sites and big games.

One other thing Robbo. Allow me to defend myself

Some of this i agree with, some of it i dont.

His conviction should be able to be found.

Going bankrupt, that should be able to be found ad well.

As for the other stuff, it reads to me as conversations not written (i might be wrong) so no hard copy.

However why would so many people who have dealt with him have similar things to say? (As in being owed, let down, ripped off, if he whiter than white?)

And i dont think tb would go online and admit to anything that would put doubt on him. Nothing unusual in that.

All i do is turn up, find out what tic tacs are going and shoot people.

But i wont be doing any of that at any tb games.

Because even if 50% of what i have heard/read is true then i dont want anything to do with him his company or any brands he represents.

 

[Robbo]

@MorphMann, allowing you to defend yourself isn't down to me in the sense I chop people's heads off arbitrarily.
People get banned for several reasons, one of which is abuse, another is for scamming, another is agenda-driven drivel or purposeful misrepresentation.

Come to think of it , there is one other reason, if I don't like you, then you could suffer the chop, I make no secret of that but I do try to give people the benefit of the doubt, in which case, I'll talk to my mods for their opinion - very rarely, and I mean very rarely do I ignore their opinions.
If you don't believe that, ask Jim [Dusty] or indeed any other mod you care to canvass..

But let's face it Morph, most people wouldn't allow people they don't like, in their house and so why should I respond any differently to that principle?
And more to the point, why would I listen to someone who I don't know who may try to tell me what to do or how to respond?
Do I know you?
Nope ... do I trust you?
Nope, as I said, I don't know you.
And so, why would I listen to any of your requests or advice - and take either seriously?
The answer is frighteningly simple but I'll let you work it out rather than spoon-feed you.

I'm not really sure how you view this site but contrary to a few people's opinions, it's a place where the vast majority are welcome but much like any other location where members of the public are allowed in, some are necessarily excluded, just look over to PbNation and see how that fiasco descended into virtual oblivion when they allowed people to roam free.

With regard to P8ntballer, anywhere from 13,000 to 19,000 [depending upon time of year] unique viewers (members & guests) the number of banned individuals is less than approx 0.02% (bots and multiple usernames are obviously not counted as well as scammers) and so I don't really think we have a systemic problem with over-zealous banning as your post seems to imply.

Go into the average pub and you'll find a lot more than 0.02% of patrons who have been shown the door.
And contrary to some people's beliefs, and yours seemingly, you aren't gonna get banned for just bringing up serious points that are made in a fair and measured way.
I'll leave that sort of SS type behaviour to t-b, and please don't insult my intelligence by suggesting he hasn't done that - that prihk bans people for a lot less than gets done on here, if you had written a similar post to this on his website about him, you wouldn't be getting a second chance to respond like you have here.
First of all - even though people haven't got everything taped, videoed-recorded and subsequently driven at high speed to the nearest police station does not mean their accounts aren't valid or indeed inadmissible in a court of law, that's a frikkin insult to them.

It takes an awful for people to go public on such threads like this, I have zero problem in tackling problems because I don't give a phuk about bully prihks like him or anyone - but not everyone's the same in this respect - as some may people here know, there's one particular girl who was so upset at the sustained attack she was victim to by barnett, that she cannot post on here [even by proxy] for fear of some retaliation from him.
If she does manage to get past her fear then are you suggesting she also take the road to the old bill shop before she can be taken seriously??
Oh and just for the record - can you please link to any posts you have made concerning Barnett's questionable behaviours, or have you just woken up for this thread.
If you haven't questioned barnett then I can only assume you're not impartial ...


We have a lot of people's statements on here, are you seriously suggesting they are all liars or have fabricated events???
Now I concede your directive [go to the police] is ambiguous and it could be interpreted in a different way [maybe], it seems as though you're asking something of people that's just ridiculous.
A lot of them have had a hard time with barnett, and now you, yes you, want them to run to the police, statements typed and no doubt you'd want them witnessed because unless they do, you think their statements are invalid in some way?
Now, I hope I'm wrong here but I will see if and when you respond.

When you've responded to this, I'll answer your other points but I don't wanna do that yet until I've read your clarification.
I will end on this note, if I'm not satisfied that you are impartial and fair, I will ban you and so choose your words wisely coz there'll be no second chance for you.

 

[Buddha 3]

So.... Somebody seems to be applying for a US visa, according to his facebook page.
Could this be a ruse? Just to see how we react?
It just seems odd to me that somebody who has his ducks in row to the extent he claims to have them, would consider moving abroad. After all, for a short term visit, you don't need to fill in 31 pages of personal details.
So....ruse, or is the captain abandoning ship?