NPPL comes to Germany?

[HERMITT]

An interesting point was raised a few weeks ago prior to Madrid as to what the NPPL would gain by coming to Europe. Before asking if this is true it may be worth considering WHY it would be true.

What would the NPPL achieve, and is it even feasable (sp) to consider running a pan european series with all the language/tax/insurance/travel/local laws etc that have to be negotiated for each event. The millenium series is a group of different parties from different countries that have come together bringing their local knowledge with them. What local knowledge does the NPPL have when it comes to Europe?

 

[Krashok]

Rosie: your right... i think that it should be not for free ..lots of players are willing to pay for a good ref-training ..but not 100€

Is there a training course for Mil refs?

I don't think so ... if a ref in bitburg asked the headref what a 3-4-1 is

Of Course you need experience as refree to make a good job..you can't learn that in 2 or 3 days..from a guy who was 2 or 3 days in the USA for such a PRO REF Training

Freddie: that event is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from being professional ! the first time we've got the link..there was nothing on the page except the link for the very cheap tickets no information about sponsors, hotels, location..nothing ! lol

That's the most unprofessional tournament organisation i've ever seen.

And think about german law..if this event will be held there there's a good chance that the public order office is coming and says : "danger to the public secruity.. this event is over now" ..that's not bitburg far away from everything..that's Berlin..right in the city of Berlin ...

At the moment there's nothing the Millennium Series has to worry about...

 

[Buddha 3]

An interesting point was raised a few weeks ago prior to Madrid as to what the NPPL would gain by coming to Europe. Before asking if this is true it may be worth considering WHY it would be true.

What would the NPPL achieve, and is it even feasable (sp) to consider running a pan european series with all the language/tax/insurance/travel/local laws etc that have to be negotiated for each event. The millenium series is a group of different parties from different countries that have come together bringing their local knowledge with them. What local knowledge does the NPPL have when it comes to Europe?

I think, if and when they do come over, the NPPL may well have enough clout to pull in some "local knowledge".

 

[sh0rt]

The most interresting thing is the first informations about the event appeared in the USA. I was called by paintballphotography owner gary baum(i take pictures for them at some of the millennium events) and he asked me what was up with that and if i maybe want to go and take pictures. I was like what are you talking about and he send me a picture of the flyer he saw in tampa. And if he wouldnt have send me the picture i doubt anyone would really know about it by now because there have been no news, press releases anywhere.

 

[MissyQ]

If the NPPL events were coming to Europe, it would be Pure promotions that would be sourcing venues etc. Does anyone here think that Pure Promotions are lacking in local knowledge in Europe? Please post if you do, I need a laugh this morning...

 

[Chicago]

An interesting point was raised a few weeks ago prior to Madrid as to what the NPPL would gain by coming to Europe. Before asking if this is true it may be worth considering WHY it would be true.

I imagine it works similar to how it works in the states:

NPPL gains the check the promoter sends to NPPL in exchange for being sanctioned.

The promoter gets an extra logo to put on their website.

NPPL gets to charge all the players $35 for a membership.

The players get to look at an extra logo on the event website. If they are lucky, they may get a snazzy membership card.

NPPL gets to charge the event referees $100 each to get trained.

The referees get a snazzy jersey.

Clearly, NPPL would be motivated to have as many sanctioned events as possible, regardless of continent.


I'd like to ask Missy though:

If Pure Promotions were to go through the trouble of securing locales in Europe, why would they bother with NPPL sanctioning?

 

[Baca Loco]

Beyond the money and prior to the recent realignment of happy campers there was/is value in building a network of "feeder" tournies with a vested interest in the format used.

 

[Chicago]

I think we have differing definitions of 'network'. "Uses NPPL rules" is a network that's been around for a decade. And that was free.

I'm not denying that there's a benefit to NPPL to get all this player information and extra money, but I don't see the benefit for the affiliate leagues or the players.

What benefits do I have if I play a NPPL sanctioned tournament as opposed to a non-NPPL one?

 

[Baca Loco]

I think we have differing definitions of 'network'. "Uses NPPL rules" is a network that's been around for a decade. And that was free.

I'm not denying that there's a benefit to NPPL to get all this player information and extra money, but I don't see the benefit for the affiliate leagues or the players.

What benefits do I have if I play a NPPL sanctioned tournament as opposed to a non-NPPL one?

And I don't see where anyone was discussing the relative merits of the scheme to the feeder series.
My prior point was simply that beyond the money generated the NPPL has/had a strong interest in creating as much support for their format at the local and regional level as possible.

 

[Chicago]

My point is that your point doesn't make any sense. "NPPL has an interest in wider adoption of their format" is a smokescreen. While they SHOULD have an interest in that, it is not the reason for the sanctioning program, collecting sanctioning fees is the reason for the sanctioning program.

If format adoption were the reason for the sanctioning program, the sanctioning program would consist of something other than pay a lot and get little, because 'pay a lot and get little' doesn't get people to adopt your format!

By marketing that leagues should be NPPL sanctioned to use the NPPL format, while simultaneously demanding payment for such sanctioning with few benefits, NPPL drives people AWAY from the format, not towards it.